OOS chances at UCB

<p>2250 on SAT
planning to take Bio, Math Ic, Lit. SAT II's in Oct.
National Merit Semifinalist</p>

<p>4.0ish GPA, probably a bit higher but not sure about unweighted
most rigorous courseload
top 7 or 8% in a class with about 1300 people</p>

<p>APs - 5 in W Hist, 4's on AP Geog, Bio, English</p>

<p>Current Sched
English 4 AP
Calculus AB AP
Physics B AP
Econ AP
Govt AP
Academic Decathlon</p>

<p>I will get pretty good recs I think</p>

<p>ECs ----> they worry me
200+ hrs hospital volunteering
Academic Decathlon team snr year- invit. only
Debated from 9th-11th grade - did Lincoln-Douglas, extemp, Student Congress debating
FBLA - 4th in Texas for Int'l Business comp
member of HOSA
participated in Student Congress
played soccer a ton but never on school team</p>

<p>I can write essays pretty well, so I'm not too worried about that</p>

<p>Can someone gauge my chances of getting in please. Thanks in advance</p>

<p>honestly, you have great stats but to anyone considering going to cal from out of state i warn you of the costs of attending for 4 years. this is a great school but i'm not sure that any school is worth this much. i too am attending from texas but i'm having to take measures to graduate as quickly as possible in order not to incur a mountain of debt when i leave. have you considered rice uni. as well? i really do enjoy berkeley and i think that virtually anyone could be happy here, but i at times i wonder whether i should have sent in my reply of acceptance to rice, and how much less i would have had to worry over financial constraints. just be smart and think things through very well. i jumped at the chance to leave texas but in all practicality this may not have been the best decision. if finances are not a problem, i think you stand a good shot, but of course you probably know that admissions can be a little unpredictable at times. feel free to pm if you have more ?'s. :D</p>

<p>why can't OOS people understand that attending a "public" university in a state they don't live in is going to cost more than a state school in their home state? Considering the quality of the UC's and they cost less than most private universities across the country, what is the complaint?</p>

<p>Well, many private institutions give enough free-aid that it becomes cheaper to attend them instead of the UCs. Heck, I even know in-state people that paid less attending UPenn then they would have at Cal and weren't poor enough to qualify for most of that Federal Aid..</p>

<p>Yonge, it looks pretty good for Cal, and i hope you make it. Where in TX are you from?</p>

<p>Pink, tuition at Rice has been going up steeply, not much diff w/ OOS Cal. it's great to get out of TX if you grew up there.</p>

<p>Not to dismiss the financial burden, but if you're planning on going to a professional school eventually (law, med, MBA,...) at a good school, theoutlook is pretty good there.</p>

<p>Are you from TX too CalX? I'm from Plano. It's true tuition may be rising to the private schools, but when you figure in travel and other expenditures associated with out of state status, it really starts adding up.</p>

<p>Not from Texas, but I have family there and i worked in Houston for a short while.</p>

<p>Do you live on Yonge Street? I used to live on Don Mills...</p>

<p>4.1 weighted is the deciding line for ucb IN STATE. oos - 4.3 will give you a 50-50 chance.</p>

<p>About applying OOS to publics - I'm probably going to apply to a couple publics outside my state. I feel like many of them, including Cal, UCLA, and Michigan, would provide me with as many if not more opportunities as I would get at a high-caliber private school. Originally, I agreed with you guys and I was set on applying to Rutgers (my state school) as my only public, but with our governor's budget cuts on education the school is suffering terribly, so I want other options in the spring.</p>

<p>Oh and some states aren't lucky enough to have state schools as good as Rutgers. In those cases, too, it would be better to apply to another public OOS because they're still cheaper than many privates if you don't qualify for need-based aid.</p>

<p>Also, I don't know how Cal works, but as I understand it Michigan does provide some OOS merit aid, so it can actually be cheaper than your state school if their aid policies are a bit more conservative.</p>

<p>Cal charges over 40k a year for out of state. From an economic standpoint, the expected value of a Berkeley degree is just not worth it. Even Umich and Uva are cheaper and they are "less" prestigious. Don't go to Cal and save yourself a lot of headaches.</p>