<p>Why would you say IU-Bloomington?</p>
<p>Quote:
"Wrong. 100% wrong. I grew up near Stanford, so I like to think I know a bit about the regionās weather. </p>
<p>Cal, maybe the weather doesnāt rank so high because itās close to the actual bay and does get foggy ā but Palo Alto is in the SOUTH BAY which is warmer. Rain is average for California; I feel it rains about the same amount in the South Bay as it does in LA. If the Bay Area DOES get a lot of rain, itās usually around the time students would be home for Winter breaks anyway. Same goes for the temperature ā can dip down to the high 40s at night, but this is usually only in December/January and itās rare."</p>
<p>Check out link for California weather for coldest California cities. [California</a> Climate Extremes](<a href=āhttp://coolweather.net/extremes/california_climate_extremes.htm]Californiaā>California Climate Extremes)</p>
<p>Salinas is near Palo Alto ( annual average temperature is 57.3) and is listed among the coldest California cities along with Berkeley (57.2), San Francisco (57.2), Santa Cruz (57.1), Santa Maria (57.3), Burlingame (57.0), Monterey (56.6), Watsonville (56.5), Eureka (52.7), and Tahoe (43.3).</p>
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" Chapman is a āniceā school, but itās hardly academically challenging or renown outside of California. Close friend from high school went there and while she loved her friends, she really disliked the high presence of the Greek system, the lack of āthings to doā in Orange (you canāt go to Disneyland all the timeā¦) and her lack of job prospects upon graduation. She also had a really negative opinion of the film program in the end." </p>
<p>Hmmmā¦Sounds like you havenāt visited Chapman recently or for quite some time. Then, youāll have a lot to catch up on. Chapman film program is a powerhouse, and has the best state-of-the-art facilities of any film school. Even USC is trying to catch up to Chapmanās standard. In case you havenāt heard, Chapman now has their own film production company; Chapman Entertainment that will make and distribute five to 10 feature films each year, and none of the other schools even have that. Chapman already has plans to build the filmmakerās village which will include dining facilities and residence halls to house all their film students near the film school so they can have access 24/7. They also have plans to build the Millennial Studios and other projects around the campus such as the Center for the Arts, Cypress Street Law Clinics, Historic Core Classroom Building, and the Science Complex. Recently, theyāve completed the Crean Hall, Psychology Department, with an improved state-of-the-art space. And currently, theyāre working on the Argyros Forum Expansion. </p>
<p>In addition to the above, Chapmanās film students are making headlines, āA romantic indie feature wowing audiences at this yearĀs Sundance Film Festival and co-written by Chapman University alumnus Ben York Jones Ā07 has reportedly been bought by Paramount Pictures for $4 million.ā How about that for a job prospect? Keep in mind that success is determined by motivation of the individual. Donāt blame a school if one is not motivated.</p>
<p>Check out the Chapmanās list at the Dodge College Blog for other success stories.
[Paramount</a> snags Chapman screenwriterĀs new film Happenings](<a href=āhttp://chapmannews.ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā /2011/01/26/paramount-snags-chapman-screenwriters-new-film/]Paramountā>Paramount snags Chapman screenwriterās new film | Happenings)
[Ben</a> York Jones and His Chapman Pals Storm Sundance - Orange County News - Navel Gazing](<a href=āhttp://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/01/ben_york_jones_sundance_chapma.php]Benā>http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/01/ben_york_jones_sundance_chapma.php)</p>
<p>For those of you who have said youāve never heard of Chapman before, where have youāve been? LOL. Chapman is ranked among the most trusted brands in the OC Trust Summit and the only university chosen by more than 2,000 respondents who participated in an online survey conducted by the Values Institute, DGWBĀs values-based research program. Apparently, there are a lot more people out there who have heard of Chapman than you may think. Howās that for a brand name recognition? </p>
<p>Anyone who questions about how renown Chapman is outside of California, hereās the data from their Class of 2009-2010 list:
Top non-California Areas Represented in the Class of 2009-2010
Domestic: Washington, Colorado, Texas, Oregon, Hawaii, and Massachusetts
International: Japan, Canada, South Korea, Taiwan, and Philippines
[Chapman</a> University - Admission - For HS Counselors - General Information](<a href=āPage Not Found | Chapman Universityā>Page Not Found | Chapman University)
Chapman is also known internationally by their Singapore satellite campus for their film program. And US News ranks Chapman in the top 8 of the Western Regional Universities. </p>
<p>Anyone with questions on Chapmanās academics should also read this.
"Chapman Universityās Athletic Training Education Program (ATEP) boasts a 30-year history of producing hundreds of graduates who are successfully employed as allied healthcare professionals and educators in various settings.</p>
<p>Combining rigorous academic coursework with clinical hands-on experiences, our program prepares students for careers and graduate studies in a variety of fields, including:</p>
<p>Athletic training
Physical or occupational therapy
Physician assistant or medical school
Nursing/nurse practitioner
Healthcare administration and leadership</p>
<p>Chapman students are Exam Champs!
Hereās more evidence that Chapman ATEP graduates excel beyond the national average: 16 out of 16 from the class of 2010 passed the Board of Certification (BOC) exam, 14 of them passed on their first attempt. Our first-attempt pass rate (87.5%) continues to greatly exceed the national average of approximately 50%.</p>
<p>The class of 2010ās stellar performance continues the CU ATEP tradition of success. Since fall 2002, 88% of all Chapman AT graduates have passed the BOC examĀthe majority of them doing so with their first attempt. Success with the exam is also linked to placement in graduate schools and employment, which we also track. More than 90% of CU ATEP graduates since 2002 have been accepted to graduate schools and/or secured jobs."
Howās this for a demonstration on how academically challenging Chapmanās programs are.</p>
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āAlso, Chapman isnāt a sports-heavy school and I donāt see it being much of a āschool spiritā university like a lot of the other names being thrown around.ā</p>
<p>Chapman is now a D3 SCIAC sports program. There are a lot of other excellent D3 schools out there like Chapman such as Carnegie Mellon, Case Western Reserve, Johns Hopkins, Pomona-Pitzer, just to name a few. You donāt need to be a D1 school to be an excellent school. Chapman has an excellent baseball team. They just finished their NCAA D3 Championships and came in 2nd place. Chapman has a lot of talented student athletes in the other sports as well.
[Chapman</a> Athletics](<a href=āhttp://www.chapmanathletics.com/landing/index]Chapmanā>Chapman)</p>
<p>Well Iāve narrowed it down to 5 schools. Hereās my top 5.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Stanford - I love it, but Iām gonna be realistic here, they only accept around 25 transfers a year. So Iām pretty much screwed.</p></li>
<li><p>Michigan/Texas - Couldnāt really decide here. This is probably the choice Iām going to have to make. About the same for sports although Texas has had more recent success, just one down year for Texas football. Maybe now that Rich is gone Michigan will improve. Texas has much better weather and a better city, but Mich has slightly better academics. Donāt get me wrong Texas has great academics, but Mich is slightly higher. One knock on Michigan for me is lack of petroleum engineering, which Iāll probably major in. UT is top for that. I like Michiganās 5 year bba/engineering. Michigan would also be much more expensive for me. Texas for sure has better weather, but is also much farther from home. Iām from Pittsburgh. </p></li>
<li><p>USC - Good academics but not top notch for my interests (engineering and business). Good sports although I wish football and basketball would improve. Good weather but itās in a bad area. Iād also struggle to afford it.</p></li>
<li><p>UNC - Good sports especially basketball, but lack of engineering hurts it for me. Weather I wouldnāt mind.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>Ok, Mr. Chapman, we get it. You love the school.</p>
<p>And yet, Iām going to bet that people that arenāt from Cali have probably never even
heard of it.</p>
<p>Which kind of invalidates the purpose of this thread.</p>
<p>@Cgeresti: Thatās a good list. I think the weather factor can be somewhat subjective so I guess we can add Michigan for those people that prefer the cold.</p>
<p>@Lonesoul Why do you want to end the thread? It hasnāt derailed just yet. We still have a good page and half left before it doesāI think. Lol. </p>
<p>@PurpleDuckMan Iāll admit, I was in a dark place when I said Iowa. Haha. My saying that was based off what others had said previously in this thread. I donāt know if what they say is true, but I do think that itās a school that doesnāt get the credit it deserves.</p>
<p>Other than that, I say Northwestern for the class-size, location and network. I say Wisconsin for biology, premed and sports that are very consistently better than Michigan in recent years. I say Purdue because it is a hidden gem in terms of engineering and if I were going to be an engineer, I might choose it over Michigan in some situations. Stanford is pretty sound in all of the things that these schools have over Michigan. None of these schools are āmore completeā than Michigan, but they have things that it lacks. Donāt get me wrong, Michigan is a jack-of-all-trades, but itās only a āmasterā of business.</p>
<p>On Vanderbilt: I know a brilliant guy who got accepted to Wisconsin premed scholars program but decided to go to Vanderbilt instead. He HATED it there, and ended up coming back to Wisconsin to go through premed the hard way. It probably didnāt help that he was Muslim. I donāt know if I trust some of these Southern schools to be the bastions of diversity and acceptance that they advertise. It may not so much be the school as the culture down there. But Iām not going to say anymore. </p>
<p>On Chapman: Iāve never heard of it, but that doesnāt mean it canāt be a well-rounded school. Being great at film, though, makes it more of a specialty school, no? Plenty of schools have great athletic programs at the D3 level, for what itās worth, but do you really want to compare the school spirit at Chapman to that of Michigan and its peers? </p>
<p>Again: What about Notre Dame?</p>
<p>I think itās the whole living in Indiana that kills ND.</p>
<p>Wow I completely forgot about Notre Dame. Theyāre very expensive also. Howās engineering?</p>
<p>I know Mendoza is a great business school.</p>
<p>Well, Indiana itself is a little barren. But remember that that entire part of the country (Southeastern Wisconsin through Northern Indiana) is almost like one big metropolis centered in Chicago. I donāt think itād be like living on the moon or something. There would be things to do.</p>
<p>Iāve only been to West Bend once, but itās pretty nice. I guess the Catholic affiliation might turn some people off, but the network is fantastic. I think Notre Dame alums almost go out of their way to make sure their fellow alums have a job. </p>
<p>I donāt really know about engineering. My suspicion would be that itās nothing special because I think a lot of in-staters choose Purdue over ND for that.</p>
<p>Ok this is off topic but Iām gonna ask. Looking for a school with good engineering, preferably petroleum but if not its ok Iāll get a masters in eng for it, a good business where I can dual major in 5 years at a reasonable tuition.</p>
<p>āOk this is off topic but Iām gonna ask. Looking for a school with good engineering, preferably petroleum but if not its ok Iāll get a masters in eng for it, a good business where I can dual major in 5 years at a reasonable tuition.ā</p>
<p>What about your state university?</p>
<p>You might look at Texas A&M or the University of Oklahoma.</p>
<p>Petroleum Eng. is fairly niche Eng. degree that is only really offered in the Midwest/SW.</p>
<p>Iād go to UT personally.</p>
<p>I donāt think Penn State offers just a general business degree. Iām not planning on using this as a career, just for knowledge before I get an mba.</p>
<p>Chapman bro needs to settle down. Unless youāre from the Bay Area too, dude, you really canāt judge the weather off averages you find on the Internet. I was at Cal in May and it was 80 degrees. The weather averages mid 60s to high 50s around late September through March/April and the fog burns off by noon. </p>
<p>57 is not cold, especially when itās sunny; it gets that cold in Anaheim/Orange, too! When you compare 57 against the negative temperatures of schools in colder areas, 57 is a day at the beach. </p>
<p>Original poster: are you International? If not, many of these schools offer good scholarships and a few are extremely generous with need-based aid. I would apply to the schools that interest you most and see what kind of money they give you if you are accepted. If I would have ruled out USC as an UG on sticker price, I would have missed out on the schoolās near full ride they gave me.</p>
<p>Iām not international, Iām from PA. Iām attending Penn State Iām the fall but theyāre really strict on double majoring.</p>
<p>Why not do a dual degree?</p>
<p>
Then you donāt need a double major or dual degree. Just take some business courses as electives.</p>
<p>@lonesoul, I didnāt realize you saying "letās all be friends and hold hands around a camp fire. /endpost " meant I wasnāt allowed to post anymoreā¦</p>
<p>Did you honestly think you weāre gonna stop this thread? </p>
<p>wolverine? Really? And yes I know wolverine means glutton. The animals a beast and just doesnāt give a **** about anything.</p>
<p>@OCELITE, add me to the group that has never heard of Chapmanā¦</p>
<p>And as much as I lived you recruiting pitch for itā¦ if I havenāt heard of it, it must not be that good at engineering, so I donāt really careā¦</p>
<p>@Wiscongene, I donāt think Purdue is that hidden, I think most people know they are good at engineering. That being said I think the only situation you pick it over Michigan is $. Like if you lived in Indiana and couldnāt afford Umich (45k+) than I could see going to Purdue. And maybe Purdue has some niche engineering that Michigan doesnāt.</p>
<p>Wisconsin sports may have been better recently, but enjoy it whole it lasts. And by sports I mean football.</p>
<p>(Remember when you were up like 21-3the on us at half and we came back won? That season we went 3-8? Lol)</p>
<p>āMichigan is a jack-of-all trades but its only a āmasterā of businessāā¦</p>
<p>Nuh uh man, Top 5 engineering programs says otherwise.</p>
<p>@CGeresti, you sure you wanna do petroleum? I realize its the highest paid now buy how much longer is that really gonna last? And why do you want a BBA and engineering degree? Why not get engineering now and an MBA later?</p>
<p>Also, if you really want to do petroleum engineering and Texas is cheaper for you then Iād go there.</p>
<p>@PurpleDuckMan yeah my only worry is job security. Thatās why I thought about civil as undergrad and petroleum as masters,</p>
<p>IMHO, It would make little sense to do civil in UG and then Petr. as a masters.</p>