Opinions please!!!

<p>Realistically what are my chances of getting into Juilliard right out of highschool?</p>

<p>Im a Soprano with a 4 1/2 octave range
I've been technically trained since the age of four (i didnt know what was going on but it has def payed off big time!!!)
I've been working on my opera rep since the age of 11
My literary trio took second in state for the past two years
This year i'll be doing literary solo as well as trio
I've worked with theatre of the stars and Fox theatre since the age of 7 and have done 3 touring shows since the age of 9
I also play violin piano and cello
but again I am auditioning right out of higschool </p>

<p>I will be singing:
1. An Italian art song or aria from 18th century or before.---not chosen yet
2. A song in English (not a translation).---The Willow Song From The Ballad Of the Baby Doe
3. A third selection in any language.---The Laughing Song
4. An opera aria from any period, in any language. (An oratorio aria
may not be used to fulfill this requirement.)---O Mio Babino Caro
5. One German Lied.---Ruhe Sanft (not sure if i qualifies as a lied considering it is an aria)
6. One French Melodie.---any one have suggestions I know Habanera, but it's written for a mezzo (of which I can be, but Im auditioning as a soprano and its also an aria)
7. Another aria of the applicant’s choice--- If Ruhe Sanft does not qualify it will go here. </p>

<p>HEEEEEELLLLP!!!!</p>

<p>Basically, everyone that replies to this is going to say one thing: there are no chances when it comes to Juilliard. It all depends on the audition: your performance and the faculty members listening to it.</p>

<p>Willow Song is an aria, not a song.
Laughing Song is an aria, not a song.
Ruhe sanft is an aria, not a song.<br>
Habanera is not a Melodie.</p>

<p>These questions and this list suggest questionable advice…though you may sing beautifully and may be wonderfully talented. The audition is the most important element, a voice that is fresh, interesting, musical, lovely, and in good shape, presented by an impeccable musician with appropriate style. And the stars must align that day, too. Good luck.</p>

<p>I figured all that. :confused:
I know plenty of arias and I mean the “songs” I know came from a book called 24 italian arias… but we used them for all state “art songs”
I feel incredibly overwhelmed.
I will sort things out somehow before Dec 1st.</p>

<p>Others have made some of my points, but I wanted to add some things. For one, I encourage you to search through threads on here about the audition process, figuring out if a schools is worth applying to, etc, there are a ton of threads, not surprisingly, from others trying to figure out what to do.</p>

<p>In terms of asking people on here, about all anyone can do is tell you whether the repertoire in question matches the requirements of a program or program. There are some real experts on here, Lorelei for example, but all they can do is point out if the rep in question meets requirements. Even if someone posts that they are working on some ridiculously high level of repertoire, rare for a HS student, it means nothing unless someone hears them sing it or play it (it is quite easy to work on high level repertoire and sound like Florence Foster Jenkins, since all that takes is getting the sheet music and having a tone deaf teacher <em>smile</em>). </p>

<p>As has been noted many times before, if you have doubts about your ability, it is probably best to talk about it with your teacher(s), or if you feel they may not be a good resource, find someone reputable and ask them for an evaluation. Even better, if possible, try to arrange a sample lesson with a teacher or teacher(s) at the program, and see what they think, since they would know better then anyone what it takes usually to get in. </p>

<p>Even then, there are no guarantees, nor does a negative evaluation necessarily mean last rites for the idea of going someplace. The audition process is a crapshoot, that even though the dice are in effect loaded to a certain extent (i.e, for example, having a teacher in the program that knows and likes you can give someone an edge), it is all very situational. If you are a mezzo and the program needs mezzos, it could mean that someone could get in this year who last year wouldn’t have even made the prescreening requirement. If you are a Soprano, conversely, and though you have won competitions, impressed all kinds of teachers, gotten written up, you may not get in because that year a flock of incredible sopranos auditioned, one of the voice teachers ate too many white castle hamburgers and got laid up, and with the level and minus a teacher, there was no room…you get the drift. </p>

<p>My personal take is get the evaluation(s), and then apply unless the feedback is so negative that it looks hopeless (and even then I would be careful, especially if you are relying on one person. Most professional music critics love Renee Fleming, but there are some cats out there that savage her and claim she is some sort of circus act <em>shrug</em>) and then give it a shot. As long as you are working on the right repertoire, and think you have time before the pre screen to bring them up to snuff, then give it a shot, because the variables are so vague you never really know what is going to happen. If you try to laser target places you think you have a good chance of getting into only, there is a good chance you might be disappointed, and then find out that had you applied to a program you excluded, you might have gotten into there…I am not advocating auditioning everywhere, you should find programs that interest you, of course, and yes you should try to be realistic (including asking yourself whether you want to go to Juilliard because you know the program and believe it to be best for yourself, or because it has a name and in some circles is equated with being a direct ticket to success; there are other vocal programs out there that might do a better job with someone like yourself then Juilliard would potentially, for example if the teacher willing to teach you was a better fit at another place then the one you would have at Juilliard).</p>

<p>The other alternative to think about is if you have your heart set on Juilliard, and don’t get in, you could use a gap year to get your rep in order and have a better shot next year…</p>

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<p>As are most other undergrad candidates for Juilliard, or any number of fine programs. Auditioning as a senior in high school or perhaps after a gap year is the norm, not the exception.</p>

<p>The others have spoken wisdom. Professional assessment, a wise selection of school choices geared to your ability (or a smaller number and a plan B should nothing pan out) and the best audition preparation you can muster under the best instructor possible is the most reasonable path to a successful audition/application season.</p>

<p>Any audition is a crapshoot. There are too many variables beyond your control to predict outcome. One can make educated assumptions and no more. The gods of admissions are fickle.</p>

<p>Some additional reading:
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<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/853290-music-conservatory-admissions-chances.html?highlight=conservatory[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/853290-music-conservatory-admissions-chances.html?highlight=conservatory&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/790165-making-into-conservatory.html?highlight=conservatory[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/790165-making-into-conservatory.html?highlight=conservatory&lt;/a&gt;
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<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/240407-audition-tips-info.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/240407-audition-tips-info.html&lt;/a&gt;
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<p>Do you have a voice teacher now? The number of errors in your audition repertoire list suggest that either you do not or you need to get a new teacher immediately. While normally it would not be a great idea to switch teachers at the beginning of senior year with your prescreening recordings coming up in weeks (or perhaps they are done), in your case, if your teacher has had anything to do with that rep list, then they do not know anything about vocal rep or auditioning for music schools.</p>

<p>A couple of other red flags in your post:
a) “technically trained” is not an expression that voice teachers or musicians use;
b) one’s range is generally not an indicator of quality;
c) 11-year-olds should not sing opera (unless in a severely abridged/transposed way). </p>

<p>Definitely look into some other good schools. One of the toughest Juilliard admits is for sopranos. Best of luck.</p>