Ordinary Guy for Extradordinary Schools Columbia Brown

<p>You’re CR and Writing scores put you slightly above the 50th%-tile, and your Math score is within the 50th%-tile range according to collegeboard.com stats. In other words: average.</p>

<p>Brown and Columbia have admittance rates around 14% +/-, so I’ll say you have an average, 14%, (1 in 7), chance.</p>

<p>That’s not a knock on you, just an acknowledgement of the competitive situation at elite universities.</p>

<p>^ Um, no. That is 14 percent for ALL who apply, not for those whose stats are within range. If you cut out all those applying below the averages, a huge chunk of applicants would disappear and the percent accepted would go up.</p>

<p>OP, you have amazing stats. Go for it, just don’t apply to Dartmouth…that is where I am applying. :stuck_out_tongue: Hahaha</p>

<p>i appreciate the help…a lot!</p>

<p>Dartmouth is too far from homem. dont worry!</p>

<p>for the HS im coming from, my stats are middle of the road which is why the whole college process is so defeating which is why im worried. it feels good to kno people out there think i have good stats because the ppl in my school arent that impressed and think columbias way out of my reach.</p>

<p>unforutnately i think my gpa kills me since it isnt close to 3.9 AND i def. dont take hardest classes possible. IM NOT EVEN TAKING AN AP MATH IN HS!</p>

<p>hopefully the school looks more at character than strictly grades</p>

<p>To rmadden: I’m not sure that THAT many apply who are too far below the stats. Sure, some do. But I know in my home state, on the West Coast, very few people even bother applying to ivy-league universities (Brown’s admit rate was 11%, but in my state was more like 16%). So, it would seem taking out most the people whose scores are way below would make the admit rate about 20-25%. Which means a good shot, but yeah. I have a friend whose ECs were AMAZING. Like, working with the state-government, getting top awards in forensics, multiple jobs, and meaningful volunteer work. Like, when you google her name all you find are her awards and achievements. But she got around a 3.5 GPA uw her junior year, and got one low grade her senior year first semester, and that essentially killed her chances to her dream school.</p>

<p>Don’t get me wrong: she’s still going to a dang good school. Just not the one she hoped for. Then again, her SATs weren’t quite as high as yours… so eh.</p>

<p>Brown was my fave school but i changed my mind about them since they were voted as one of the worst schools last year by fastweb. but i think you have a decent shot since you are so passionate i would say make sure that you get an interview though i warn you even that might not get you in. My best friend valedictorian of my class who is going to princeton now did not get accepted to Brown for some odd reason! thats just to show you that its all a gamble.</p>

<p>rmadden15, the stats I cited are for the most recent reported freshman classes. The OP’s stats are within the 50th%-tile of the ADMITTED FRESHMAN. This makes the OP’s position “average” for the class.</p>

<p>Obviously there will be admitted applicants below this average; however, to the extent that they exist, for OP’s stats to be in the middle 50%, those applicants would be offset by “4.0/2400s”. All other things being equal, those students would, presumably, be more likely to be accepted than someone with OP’s (very good) stats. Therefore any benefit OP gains from being around less qualified applicants is offset by the fact that there are fewer available remaining slots. If anything, any applicant’s chances are actually lower when you remove the slots taken up by special situations, (athletes, donation cases, legacies, etc.). In short, his statistical position probably doesn’t change very much.</p>

<p>As chsowflax17 points out, elite school applicants self-select, i.e., because of the perceived low probability of success, the number of 3.1/1800 applicants will be limited. Without data to support your “huge chunk” assertion, it is hard to see how OP’s chances change significantly from the average.</p>