<p>Looking into possible summer programs for Org Chemistry? Anyone have any suggestions, cost, etc. (for possible premed) thanks</p>
<p>Harvard. They offer a summer O-chem course and Dartmouth kids sometimes take it.</p>
<p>yes, wondered if there are other options. Pretty expensive program, including the living cost (although I haven’t compared it to many programs yet).</p>
<p>Summer organic chemistry programs are well known amongst medical admissions committee staff to be cop-outs. This is particularly true of a program as large as the Harvard one. The median in that program is an A-. At Dartmouth, the median in orgo is a B.</p>
<p>If you want to back down from a challenge, go ahead and take a summer orgo course. Just don’t be surprised if it comes up in a medical school admissions interview.</p>
<p>With my rant out of the way, there are valid reasons to take a summer orgo course, but it’s very, very suspicious if you do it at Harvard. The unstated philosophy there is that if you can shell out the $$, they’ll rubber stamp the grade.</p>
<p>The D originally was thinking environmental science/engineering, now she wants to make sure she does all the med school requirements in case. The issue is studying abroad and doing some of those programs. even now, she may need to take a biology and chemistry class next term both with labs and a class. She also doing a research internship, etc. so summer program may be an option to take 1 class. I guess if she doesn’t do this, she will be locked into being on campus many quarters to get the classes she needs…</p>
<p>I had thought she could do it closer to home, but lower rated university may not be that great/well accepted by either D or med school. I heard the org chem is alot of work. </p>
<p>Dartmouth Forever— any other suggestions? Sounds like you know alittle about the med school process (we are just reading about it --me/D). </p>
<p>The cost is the number one thing making this tough (plus the financial aid formula I beleive usually looks to the student to raise some funds in summer employment).</p>
<p>The one thing about doing summer orgo at harvard is that you can knock the whole course out over the summer. </p>
<p>D has had a number of friends do the orgo route at Harvard and are now in med school. I don’t recall any of them saying that they were questioned on why they chose to take orgo at Harvard.</p>
<p>Yes, with the quarter system,is it 2 quarters at D? With trying to do maybe 2 abroad programs, she is trying to get it done or she is locked into several straight quarters of chem. She is even thinking of doing two lab courses next quarter, which I think is too much…but I am just a mom. I’m not to familiar w/all the med school requirements, just trying to read up on it hear on internet, CC, Barnes & Noble.</p>
<p>Heard there was a good article in WSJ yesterday, I have to read about med school/doctors, etc.</p>
<p>Yes, orgo is two terms at Dartmouth. I’m not sure if you get both the orgo requirements from the Harvard course, though. (I doubt you do, since medical schools require 2 semesters of organic chemistry.) Maybe those who have experience with the course can chime in here.</p>
<p>I guess that was something my D did say, she would be a D for maybe 6 quarters to get it done, then making it difficult to travel abroad for 1-2 quarters. She is very active with language program too.</p>
<p>D’s friends took Ochem at Harvard for exactly the reasons that you stated. They wanted to knock it out over the summer to free themselves up to work their D-plan in order to do study abroad, internships or take a leave terms (to study for the MCAT).</p>
<p>harvard’s summer school chem course summer 2011</p>
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<p>thanks for the info…will look more into it and possible living arrangements. Wonder about funding summer classes.</p>
<p>The course at Harvard is equivalent to two semesters.
Apparently some students spend 24 hours in the library, while others spend 10…</p>
<p>Another option is Johns Hopkins’… does anyone know anything about this? Is it better?
All I know is that it is 10 weeks long, and the Harvard one is 7.</p>
<p>…wow the equivalent of 2 semesters in 7 weeks?<br>
The timing of John Hopkins may be an issue, depends on start/stop dates. That would take the entire summer then.</p>
<p>Note there is deadline and an approval process at Dartmouth to be eligible to take Orgo 1 &2 at Harvard Summer School and it is discouraged by the Chemistry Dept. (see “Office of the Registrar” & “Transfer of Terms” on website). There is also a pretty hefty charge to transfer the credit (the grade does not appear on your Dartmouth transcript). However, if you want to take a leave term, study abroad etc. & take the MCAT’s on time, Harvard Summer is the way to go mostly because it fits with Dartmouth’s schedule & from past history will be approved. Although Dartmouth’s website says they will only approve so many to take a particular course over the summer, this really wasn’t an issue & there were a number of students taking it with our daughter.</p>
<p>Consolidating ORGO 1 & 2 into 7 weeks makes for a very rigorous class schedule with exams every Monday. Every Friday there is a review session from 3pm-5pm as well as different break out & lab sessions throughout the week. The good news there is plenty of opportunity to seek out help with either the professor(s) or TA’s. However, my daughter tells me that they are really there to answer questions & if you do not know the right question to ask then it may not benefit you. </p>
<p>My daughter does not regret taking it, but there were plenty of students who did not do well and if you get a “C” or below the credit will not transfer. Per Dartmouth’s website the transfer charge (payable prior to taking the course) is non-refundable.</p>
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