Orientation Placement tests

<p>I just recently found out about this and I have no idea what the hell is going on. </p>

<p>“All freshmen should expect to take two placement exams prior to course registration during Orientation”</p>

<p>[UC</a> Davis Orientation - Freshmen Placement Tests](<a href=“http://orientation.ucdavis.edu/freshmen/placementtests.asp]UC”>http://orientation.ucdavis.edu/freshmen/placementtests.asp)</p>

<p>and if so, does anyone know any info on this? Especially the math test. I’m not planning on doing anything chem related or have not learned chem in 3 years so… Do I still have to take it?</p>

<p>OMG it says regardless of AP score :(, BC score 4
I took calculus last year does that mean I have to restudy calc :frowning:
and chem 2a needs a test :frowning:
this makes me sad whats the point of AP exam.</p>

<p>yeah… I think you need to take the calculus ab test to study for calculus bc… :confused: so lame man! I got an 800 on my math iic subject… >;O</p>

<p>looked up some more info about it
it says the test is Pre Cal level.
I don’t even remember what topics were considered precal…</p>

<p>wasn’t precalc the class we took before calc… so that’s sat subject iic topic… so much things to remember now:/ it’s like hyperbolas, unit circle, vectors, logs… :/</p>

<p>schools are learning that–regardless of ap score–kids are skipping intro-level math and chemistry and having difficulty passing their classes. this is because the ap courses for the most part aren’t really taught on a true college level. in response to this, many (all?) UCs are requiring placement tests to make sure that students aren’t deciding for themselves that they don’t need a certain course (based on ap scores which don’t necessarily reflect your actual aptitude). it’s for your own good–and it’s a good thing.</p>

<p>im in precalc now, its pretty easy, we’ve stutied trigonometry, logarithms, conics, and different types of functions…i would think that if your in calc the test would be easy</p>

<p>when i was visiting one of the students told me we some credit for ap classes but they make us retake the course</p>

<p>does anyone know when and where we take these tests</p>

<p>are these test going to cost us anything?
I know the awpe cost 110 but what about the math and chem one?
If anyone has taken these test already how was it?
Haven’t touched anything related to chem in 2 years…1 year for calc :(</p>

<p>The math test is EXTREMELY easy. I had never taken a calc class prior to going to Davis. It’s algebra 2/precal level stuff.
Chemistry as well. The only chemistry I took was a summer course in high school a year and a half before, so it was basically a joke. I passed both of the tests like nothing (and I don’t even like science - admitted biosci, currently econ).</p>

<p>But that is not to say that you shouldn’t take these seriously, since they can set you back a quarter or even more in terms of calc and chem.</p>

<p>As for when/where, the orientation people take care of you regarding that 100%, if they don’t they’re a ****ty orientation staff member. Just know at some point during orientation you will have to take some tests. There are people at orientation who will be actively making sure you take care of every little thing you need to take care of, so don’t worry. It’s their job.</p>

<p>And I don’t remember paying anything for these tests, but I’m not sure on that one. If there is a fee, it should be included in the orientation fees.</p>

<p>wow the awpe cost money? :confused: this is a bummer. haha it’s just an essay test :o well what @Calimami said kind of makes things nice. Regardless if I fail the math or the chem in the long run it’ll be helping me. </p>

<p>Willl taking precalc freshmen year set back my engineering career?
I know it’s always to good to start school with calc and beyond for math and engineering majors but will it really have an impact on the whole scheme of getting an environmental engineering degree? That would suck if I would have to be in Davis for more than 4 years :/</p>

<p>I don’t really know, but I can tell you about my friends I guess. One took 21B freshman fall quarter, the other took 21C. First one is biomedical eng, second is chemical eng. Both of them are on track to graduate in 4 years with summer school.
Judging from that, you may have some trouble. I can’t say though, but it might help if you look at your major reqs ([UC</a> Davis General Catalog | Programs and Courses](<a href=“http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/UCDWebCatalog/programs.html]UC”>General Catalog - Welcome))</p>

<p>One plus about starting with precal is that you take 21A with people who also had to take precal. I think it’s safe to say that che2a, mat21a, and mat17a are harder fall quarter because that’s what the majority of freshmen are taking = a lot of premeds (mainly in the case of 17, but i don’t know about 21) = more competition.</p>

<p>Oh, and I was just looking at these statistics today, but within the class of 2008 (people who entered in 04) the 4 year graduation rate was somewhere between 40-50%. 6 year was around 75%. Don’t fret.</p>

<p>Go to this link [SASC</a> - Placement Exams](<a href=“http://lsc.ucdavis.edu/placement.html]SASC”>http://lsc.ucdavis.edu/placement.html) to find out about the math
and chem placement tests. There are study guides there also, plus some
links on the chem ones to practice tests. You can take the math one online
before orientation. They give you your score at orientation. You only need
to take these if you are enrolling in certain math or chem classes. It lists
those on the above link also.</p>

<p>added - there are some math practice tests at that link also</p>

<p>what are these courses?
Mathematics 21A-21B-21C-21D
Mathematics 22A-22B</p>

<p>how far does that go up to?</p>

<p>[UC</a> Davis General Catalog | Mathematics (MAT) Courses](<a href=“http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/UCDWebCatalog/programs/MAT/MATcourses.html]UC”>http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/UCDWebCatalog/programs/MAT/MATcourses.html)</p>

<p>i just looked over the practice test for math and… it’s pretty simple haha.</p>

<p>Seems fair enough math courses. I’m a bit excited haha.</p>

<p>wait it says we need to take hat for 21A
With BC calc i can take 21B O.o
do I still need to take the test?</p>

<p>@FutureEEMajor, thank you for bumping this. almost forgot about those tests! </p>

<p>ok, so it says we must take two of these placement tests. are these all taken at orientation? and can we actually choose which ones to take? awpe, I’m assuming is exempt to some people, since some people got letters about that a while back (because their SAT/ACT writing score wasn’t high enough). do I still have to take this even though I didn’t get the letter? and is chem a freshmen req? I don’t think I’d use it much for my major otherwise. (math placement is probably a given…)</p>

<p>but back to the req of taking two placement exams. how does this work, since there are four tests possible? (math, chem, awpe, several languages) </p>

<p>thanks :)****</p>

<p>not sure @hella has been answering most of the questions. The AWPE isn’t offered in orientation and it somewhere says that math test you can do it online. I looked over it and it’s fairly simple just have to brush up on certain topics but most it is just simple math concepts. This is the schedule</p>

<p>[UC</a> Davis Orientation - Freshmen Program](<a href=“http://orientation.ucdavis.edu/freshmen/]UC”>http://orientation.ucdavis.edu/freshmen/)</p>

<p>under Day 2 8:30-9:00 it says choose one but it’s either language or chem</p>