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<p>Do you mean, for in-state tuition? The same.</p>
<p>^Actually, many grad students get OOS tuition waivers, it is very different from UG.</p>
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<p>Perhaps somewhat, but with people as mobile as they are these days, it’s really not something you should be using as a large factor in determining where you attend UG college IMO.</p>
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<p>I’ll concede, I don’t know how this works in the UCs. When I was in graduate school at U.Va., only graduate students who were working within their department (mostly as TAs, some as research assistants) got this perk. No entering graduate students got it. And it was still true that you couldn’t establish yourself as a Virginian if you had come to Virginia to attend school. If your employment ended, so did your waiver.</p>
<p>I didn’t bring it up because it was all rather complicated, and it wasn’t the sort of thing a person should depend on if he was eyeing Virginia from Illinois. But, again, California may be different.</p>
<p>So as long as I get my education and my degree, I could get a job anywhere right? Like I said, I really want to live in Cali…</p>
<p>^^^ out of curiosity, what is it about California that you find so appealing?</p>
<p>I have relatives there, and I prefer everything down there than over here.</p>
<p>Well, I’m sure CA will be happy to have another tax-paying resident. But, until you actually are one, I wouldn’t look for any benefits from the current taxpayers of that state. They are supporting the public universities with their tax dollars for the benefit of current residents, who are already facing increased fees due to the current fiscal crisis.</p>
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<p>No there isn’t anyway to “cheat” the system.</p>
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<p>Well…maybe. I have one kiddo who has already gone to grad school at an OOS public. He received a generous assistantship BUT he did NOT get an OOS tuition waiver. His school doesn’t grant those to anyone (you have to be instate to get instate tuition).</p>
<p>I think “some” would be a better way to describe this for grad students. SOME grad students receive OOS tuition waivers. I’m going to wager money that it’s not the majority.</p>
<p>^I think that it’s often easier for grad students to successfully request a reclassification for tuition purposes since the presumption is that they’re independent. But they often have to reside in the state for a full year first and change their driver’s licenses, register to vote, file a state tax return, etc. in order to demonstrate intent.</p>
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<p>I can live with that ;). Snd perhaps it varies with the field of study. In mine, it seemed like everyone came from OOS and got a waiver.</p>
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<p>None of this was sufficient for me at Virginia. Or for my wife, even after we were married, and I was working and paying taxes. Because she’d come to Virginia in order to go to school, she’d never be a Virginian for purposes of tuition.</p>
<p>Different states have different requirements for qualifying for in-state tuition. California has some of the strictest requirements, so unless you and your parents live there for at least a year prior to enrolling in a UC or CSU, there is virtually no chance of obtaining in-state status for tuition purposes.
I left Maryland twenty-six years ago to work for the federal government overseas. During that time I have bought a house in California (and pay hefty property taxes on it), registered to vote in CA, opened banks accounts in CA and obtained a CA drivers license. I haven’t set foot in Maryland for nearly eight years, but visit California at least once a year (most of my family lives there and I plan to retire there). Bottom line - neither Maryland nor California will grant us in-state tuition.</p>
<p>Sarsfield…yes…that is because your place of RESIDENCE isn’t MD or CA. If you actually resided in one of those states you would have instate residency there. Expats deal with this all the time. Just owning a house, being registered to vote, and having a drivers license isn’t enough. You have to have those things IN ADDITION to actually residing in the state.</p>
<p>Thumper…that is partially true. I know of people in similar situations as mine - have lived overseas for many years, but because they maintained ties with the state in which they last resided, i.e., driver’s license, voters registration, home ownership, etc. - they were able to qualify for in-state tuition.</p>
<p>In my case I have never spent more than three consecutive months in California and I can understand why they will not grant us in-state residency. I have no problem with that.</p>
<p>One of the most difficult questions for my children to complete on the Common Application is “what is your state of legal residence”? I appear to have none and my children, who were all born overseas (they are American as well as my wife and I), have never lived in the states. They look to me and ask how they should answer the question.</p>
<p>Here’s an interesting angle on the whole CA in-state/out-of-state issue, but it’s not one I will encourage my children to take:
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<p>It was wise for that student to remain anonymous since she could be prosecuted for theft. This is not a good alternative.</p>
<p>I know a guy who accepted a CA job so that he can establish residency and his kids can join him after they graduate in HI & will hopefully be seen as CA residents. It is challenging for the family as they have two households now, one in CA & one in HI (with the wife & kids).</p>
<p>Erin’s Dad, I doubt the student actually did anything illegal. The marriage was legal. You can marry someone for whatever reason you like.</p>
<p>Shades of “The Proposal,” where the marriage was to prevent forced deportation?!?! This may be yet another hole that may be plugged, especially if it starts getting more popular as a reason to claim residency.</p>
<p>Marrying in name only for purposes of tuition or citizenship is fraud. You can marry for any reason you like, but these people are only married on paper. They could be prosecuted for fraud - no one has thought to do it yet, but clearly they are making false claims to gain financial advantage.</p>