<p>Is it much harder to get in OOS?</p>
<p>How am I looking with the following:</p>
<p>3.8UW/4.2W (Good public school)
29ACT
Decent ECs/Good Essay.
From IL</p>
<p>Thanks for your help</p>
<p>depends who you talk to. many say it is much harder for oos. others (like myself) think oos has a slight advantage currently due to fiscal issues surrounding the university. Simply put, oos = more $$</p>
<p>in either event, your stats look solid and i would say you have a good shot.</p>
<p>2007 freshman profile lists mid 50%</p>
<p>High School GPA of 4.0 - 4.4
SAT of 1210 - 1400
ACT of 26 - 31</p>
<p>sounds like you are right there. Good Luck!</p>
<p>From what I've heard, it is much harder to get into UF from OOS. As it is a state school, it must accept 2/3 of its students from in state, making it theoretically harder for OOS students because of 1/3 of the class of 2011 can be from OOS.</p>
<p>You look like a pretty good candidate to me though. And a bit of advice, make your interest in the school very obvious in your essay/app. They love applicants who are willing to bleed orange and blue.</p>
<p>Oh wait, the app was due Nov.1 ... nvm.</p>
<p>"As it is a state school, it must accept 2/3 of its students from in state, making it theoretically harder for OOS students because of 1/3 of the class of 2011 can be from OOS."</p>
<p>Where did you read that? I have never seen that stated in my life?</p>
<p>If that is true someone needs to tell our Board of Trustees that is a stupid law, and we need to fight to get it changed.</p>
<p>i have never seen that stated either. in fact when we visited UF and asked the admissions rep, they said the admition criteria was the same for in state vs. oos. They told us they just don't get as many oos applicants.</p>
<p>Many state universities have in-state quotas. But UF has not hit its ceiling with respect to quotas, so the hurdles are the same for both in-state and out-of-state. </p>
<p>You take a college like UNC- they hit the ceiling <em>big time</em> every year. So since they can only accept something like 17% OOS, and they get WAY more OOS applicants than that, they have to be pickier with OOS than in state. NC State, on the other hand, has the same quotas, but doesn't get the same OOS volume of applicants, so the selectivity is roughly the same for both. </p>
<p>When UF becomes a state university as popular with OOS students as UNC and UVa, it will have to be more selective with OOS applicants than instate applicants.</p>
<p>To add a bit:</p>
<p>From what decisions I've seen, it has seemed like it is marginally harder to get in OOS</p>
<p>i'd say you have a great shot good luck....10,000 post for the UF board!</p>
<p>Thank you everybody for your replies.</p>
<p>I'll admit UF has been growing on my lately. If I am accepted, I will definatly come down and check it out!</p>
<p>Please do Vlad, UF is an awesome school.</p>
<p>I'm a mom who is a UNC alumni. I LOVE my Tarheels, and would have loved it if either of my sons chose UNC, but the didn't- they are both Gators. I have to admit, being a part of the Gator Nation has totally changed my thinking. There is NOTHING like Gator pride. The traditions, the joy de vivre, the enthusiasm, the openness of UF students.... it's like no other. </p>
<p>The campus is different, in terms of ambience, than most traditional schools, but gorgeous in its ethereal old-Florida beauty. And where else can you walk to class and see a real live alligator (or the country's largest nightly display of bats)?</p>
<p>An unbelievable number of programs, awesome research opportunities (and yes, they are there for the undergraduate's asking), and let see... who else can play the theme from "Jaws" (alligator chomp) and Simon's "You can Call Me Al" in the same game?</p>
<p>Definitely come down and check it out.</p>
<p>UF has crazy admissions... I wouldn't go by their released averages at all.</p>
<p>doubleplay- I applied to UNC as well. I visted there this summer and it was incredible. Yes, I know its a mega reach, but I tought it was worth a try. Who knows with admissions being so random? I guess I'll wait and see what happens.</p>
<p>given UF significantly altered its admission procedures this year -how do you folks think it will effect the actual selection process</p>
<p>btw in above post i meant to ask what kind of impact will it have overall not just for oos students. i wonder if data ming will be used more extensively? what kind of and how many categories/tags will the adcoms look at this year that were not considered last year (or previous years)? just curious to hear your thoughts...</p>
<p>I am very curious about this as well. There are two variables at play, though, which will have an impact. First is the elimination of ED. This should bring up the averages. When I look at our hs naviance scattergram, it's obvious that lower stats students were getting in ED, while slightly higher stats students got rejected RD. But the wild card is going to be the Nov. 1 deadline. A lot of students were caught off guard on that one, especially OOS students I'm sure (because Nov. 1 is definitely out of the norm for most schools). In the past, students could apply all the way through February. Although UF says it will still consider apps after Nov. 1, how many students found out too late and just said "screw it"? I believe that in spite of the large number of apps, the number would have been larger still if the deadline was in January. And the larger the numbers, the higher the selectivity.</p>
<p>interesting point about overall numbers and gpa...
the adcom certainly has provided themselves with so much more time to review (by ending ED and moving app date to Nov 1st) Accordingly i wonder if they will spend more time on specifics for instance
1.major selected (filling less popular ones with students who seem likely to choose UF even if GPA not as high as those who want a popular major)
2. essay - do they read them. some on this board say yes others say no. longer review perios gives them time to read them ithink. i also saw a post (maybe in this thread) who commented write an essay that bleeds orange and blue.as an oos family having visted both UF and FSU we did notice that the gator nation was prevelant . while noles were important and highly decoarted the gator feeling was one of mania) anyway i thought about this when i read the post about that essay tip thinking it was good advice for a wannabee gator!!!</p>
<p>The admissions "formula" is a well kept secret.
Our GC once showed us the worksheet used by admissions at a large university to the north of us. She said it was similar to what UF does. </p>
<p>The worksheet was basically a rubric- there was a range of points for GPA (for example, 20 points for 4.0+, 18 points for 3.75-4.0, 16 for 3.5-3.75, etc.), a range of points for SAT scores, a range of points for academic rigor (5+ APs gets you 10 points; 3-4 APs gets you 5 points, and so on); ECs (10 points for impressive, 5 points for good, etc), and the essay was scored (10 points for knock-your-socks-off, 7 for above average, 5 for average, and so on). There were some points added for legacy and URM and your letters of recommendation were graded as well. The points were added up and the highest points won. </p>
<p>Although the bulk of the points were for GPA and SAT, the differences in points awarded for different ranges were relatively small (IOW, a 50 point difference on the SAT might have amounted to a few extra points, and there was no difference at all between, say, a 1300 and a 1350). It was obvious that someone with no ECs, marginal letters of rec, a slipshod essay, and not legacy or URM was going to have to have a phenomenal GPA/SAT to make up for all those points he lost.</p>
<p>Don't quote me on the examples, I can't remember the exact numbers so I just made them up as an illustration.</p>
<p>When I went up for the hispanic orientation this summer I personally asked an admissions counselor if they actually read all the essays.</p>
<p>The counselor said that they do prescreen applications and only read the essays of students that have certain SAT scores, GPA's, etc., so technically there is a minimum requirment for all these scores/grades that they don't actually put out publicly.</p>
<p>that makes sense, no need to read the essays of students they would admit base on scores or GPAs anyway</p>
<p>The website is pretty clear that they do read them</p>
<p>Holistic Review
UF</a> Admissions</p>
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<p>Short-answer and essay questions in particular help the Office of Admissions consider the applicant within the context of each applicant's own experiences: with family, in high school, in their local communities and within the context of their cultural backgrounds. All factors that can distinguish an applicant's achievements and indicate the potential for success at the University of Florida will be considered</p>