<p>Hey, I'm not completely sure if I'm posting this in the right forum, so if I've messed up, I'm sorry. Anyways, I'm just finishing up my sophomore year at Perrysburg High School and The University of Toledo (just one class there, japanese). This year I was in all honors classes, save japanese of course, and I got a 4 to 6 ratio of A's to B's.. which doesn't roll over well with me at all... Imagine scoring a couple 91.4%'s and getting B+'s.. pfffttt.. However, I figured if I do well my junior yeah and pulled some decent ACT/Sat scores I'd be in a favorable position, well sorta anyways. I do remember that a girl last year at my school who was in the low top ten of her class w/ a 4.3 uw and she got a presidential scholarship to U-M. I guess that means U-M regards my school as decent, or at least that's the way I'm taking it. Do I have to take the ACT writing section though, and are there any good online ACT/SAT prep materials I could invest in? Anyways, to the point I wanted to make.. out-of-state tuition for myself and my family will be tough to pay.. my Father regarded it as "maybe impossible".. Although he's told me on multiple occasions that if I really wanted to attend U-M, that he'd move to Ann Harbor w/ me my Junior or Senior year. Now obviously, I can't do that.. no reason to elaborate. So anyways, I live a whole 20 miles from the state of Michigan, and the University of Toledo is about a block away from the border. Am I really going to have to pay $40,000 over a small issue like this? What are the ways around paying out-of-state tuition? Do I get to switch to in-state after 2 years? I'm sure I can't be the only one facing this problem. Any input would be greatly appreciated, and thanks for taking the time to read. ^_^</p>
<p>I do not know if U-M has such a program but I know that UT and TAMU both have programs that cut the cost for kids in neighboring states.</p>
<p>EMU has an reciprocal agreement with Lucas County, Ohio--but U-M does not.</p>
<p>I know the fact that you live close to the Michigan border makes residency seem like a small matter, but it's still a border. You live in Ohio, you live under Ohio laws, you pay Ohio taxes, you vote in Ohio elections, etc. </p>
<p>Changing residency status once enrolled at U-M is not easy. The fact that you've been living in Michigan to attend college there does not make you a resident for purposes of tuition, at least not the way U-M looks at it. They're not the only school with this policy, athough they may be well-known for their strict adherence to it!</p>
<p>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.</p>
<p>Can I live off campus as a Freshman? Is it okay if I rent my own place/apartment in Ann Harbor as a Freshman (or a couple months earlier) and literally establish residency there, leaving Ohio completely, either with my family or alone? If I could do this, would they allow me to recieve instate tuition after attending U-M for two years paying out-of-state tuition? Do they have a once you are an out-of-state student you are always one type policy there?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.umich.edu/%7Eregoff/resreg.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.umich.edu/~regoff/resreg.html</a></p>
<p>I'm sure there's an answer somewhere in there, but I sure as hell ain't reading it.</p>
<p>heysontenshinhan...im from Toledo mon...and I'm takin summer classes at UT too (calc)...good luck on the establishing residency man...its reallly hard with UM and they're an ass about any out of staters counting for OS tuition...even when i only live like 5 miles from the border..</p>
<p>if ur family moved there and worked there u can get residency...or you would have to have a full time job in michigan...either of those can work</p>
<p>My friend from Toledo had to pay out-of-state tuition. Sorry, that's just the way it is.</p>
<p>Also, it's not Ann Harbor, it's Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>lmao "ann harbor"</p>
<p>U-M's position is that if you moved to the state of Michigan solely to attend school, then you're not a resident. Even if you buy a house and pay local property and state income taxes. So the "getting an apartment" thing won't work. </p>
<p>If it did, everyone would do it.</p>
<p>If your entire family moved to Michigan, then you might get your residency changed.</p>
<p>wow, what a small world. i live close to toledo.</p>
<p>It's really difficult to get in-state tuition - and also difficult to get significant scholarships at Michigan. None of the things you've described would qualify. Maybe if your parents got jobs in Michigan and the whole family moved a couple of years before college. If money is an issue, you've got a bunch of good public universities and private colleges that are generous with financial aide.</p>
<p>The only other thing I came up with was maybe if I moved to michigan and became enrolled at UT(I already am, but this time I'll try as a mech engineering major). This way I could get a part time job in Michigan and pay Michigan taxes and such.. From there I would have to sever any ties with my parents to make myself a true Michigan resident. Since I'm living in Michigan and attending a university in Ohio, that would prove that the reason I'm living in Michigan is not entirely because I'm attending a college in Michigan. After I become a full resident, 1 - 2 years later I would transfer to U-M. I'm skeptical whether or not they would accept me as a transfer into their engineering program. UT's engineering program isn't even ranked in the top anything by US News. Anyone think this would work? I checked dilksy's link (Thanks, by the way ^_^) and everything appears to check through..</p>
<p>I doubt that plan would be successful unless you stopped your education for at least several years while working to support yourself and living independently in Michigan. You'd be giving up the traditional college experience - just for the sake of paying Michigan in-state tuition. It's not worth it. Go to Ohio University or Ohio State or Miami of Ohio. Or take out loans to go to Michigan as an out-of-state student. You can always go to Michigan for grad school.</p>
<p>You also have Case Western there too.</p>
<p>Although, I don't give a damn about having a 'traditional high school experience', I also don't like the plan I stated above. Anyways, if you didn't catch my drift I've chosen U-M, or any other university, based on my intended major. That's all I care about; nothing else is important to me. In my mind college = education. US News ranked U-M as 4th in mechanical engineering and the fact that my stats might be enough to get me in is why U-M is my school of choice. OSU is ranked 26th.. Other schools I've considered were Purdue, University of Urbana-Champaign, and Berkeley (like that one will ever happen). I realize that I may be overemphasizing the importance of the prestige of the undergrad school I attend, I am sure my views are not too uncommon. But, yeah thanks for everyone's advice! I guess loans probably are my best bet. After all I'm not poor, my parents are middle/upper middle class.. we're just frugal.
Oh btw.. this isn't the first time I've written Ann Arbor, Ann Harbor. I wrote a research paper and featured the name that way maybe 20 times. Fortunately, I cought it before I handed it in. But, yeah it's pathetic. Bad habits don't like to go away.</p>