Out of state vs In state Acceptances

<p>Given the economic climate and the fact that Michigan charges more than any other state school for out of state tuition, does anyone know whether Michigan is planning to accept more out of state students this year?</p>

<p>If anyone knows they are unlikely to be reading this forum…and if they are reading this forum, they are unlikely to post a response. Everything else is an opinion/guess.
Good Luck!</p>

<p>You’d think so…but IDK</p>

<p>Well in my understanding (purely from what the info session guy said on my visit) 2/3 of the incoming class is in state and idk if they are allowed to change that by michigan law.</p>

<p>FWIW - From this past Spring. It may or may not apply to the class of 2015.
[‘U</a>’ officials: This year’s application numbers up | The Michigan Daily](<a href=“http://www.michigandaily.com/content/u-officials-say-number-applicants-has-increased]'U”>'U' officials: This year's application numbers up)
Both Coleman and Sullivan said they expect the traditional ratio of resident to non-resident students to remain constant for next year’s incoming class as well. Typically, two-thirds of admitted students are from Michigan, while one-third is from out-of-state.</p>

<p>“I don’t think there’s going to be any change to the usual admissions formula, which is roughly two-thirds (in-state), one-third (out-of-state), adjusted for the yield because our yield is generally lower on non-resident students,” Sullivan said.</p>

<p>they should change it though, IMO</p>

<p>Of course you think they should change it. You’re oos. They won’t though so there’s no use whining about it.</p>

<p>whether I am OOS or not it makes sense for them to adjust the ratio, there was another big thread about this</p>

<p>I think the following had some interesting opinions:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/998363-coleman-said-she-d-like-begin-shrinking-size-university.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-michigan-ann-arbor/998363-coleman-said-she-d-like-begin-shrinking-size-university.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>lol, ya that’s ^^^ the thread where I got in an argument with some mom that thought all the IS and OOS students were all equal, or something like that. I forget</p>

<p>That mom thought that all students should be judged (chosen) based on their scores and gpas equally - not paying attention to whether they were IS or OS. She still feels the same way.</p>

<p>well if we did judge like that it would be awesome. Then more OOS kids (just based on probability) and more money.</p>

<p>I think that was what I was debating. There’s a larger pool of OOS kids then IS kids, so its ridiculous to think you could get the same quality of students if you take twice as many kids from a smaller sample.</p>

<p>Actually now that I think about it are there even more OOS applicants than IS, maybe not. I know the common app adds applicants but I’m not sure. Of course I am sure a lot of IS students apply to Michigan with no shot of getting in, they just do it because it’s their state school. Same thing in Ohio, a bunch of kids applied to OSU with pretty much no shot of getting in. I’d think if you were OOS you wouldn’t reach so much when you apply, because of the OOS fees.</p>

<p>“Of course I am sure a lot of IS students apply to Michigan with no shot of getting in, they just do it because it’s their state school. Same thing in Ohio, a bunch of kids applied to OSU with pretty much no shot of getting in”</p>

<p>Unlike Ohio, we have two large Big 10 universities in this state. Many students apply to MSU and not Michigan. They have no interest in attending U-M.</p>

<p>whatever, my point was you’ll see more kids applying to their state school where they’re a reach than kids applying to an out of state school where they are a reach</p>

<p>OOS applications outnumbers those from in-state by about 1.5 to 1.</p>

<p>^^ Which makes sense. Kids in state know what it takes academically to be admitted and there is an element of self selection. The common app probably has little impact on the quantities of in-state applications since that potential number of applicants is measureable. As others have said Michigan is fortunate to have two great flagships. One cannot dismiss the quality of Lyman Briggs and the other Michigan State residential colleges or the growth of the Seidman School of Business at GVSU or in-state students who want an academically rigorous small college. The common app has perhaps given rise to more OSS apps thrown into the mix. Whether that equates to a stronger class or results in more OSS students willing to spend the money to attend UofM remains to be seen. If anything it may give the university a better opportunity to meet their diversity initiatives that are not targeted within the boundaries of the state given the fact that the university has already stated publically that they will not continue to grow the incoming classes in the short-term.</p>

<p>The University has “diversity initiatives?” I don’t see the point of that. I mean its great to have a diverse student body but it shouldn’t affect who is accepted. What your race is isn’t even a question on the app I thought.</p>

<p>Many colleges have programs designed to reach out to the minority communities and recruit/educate them of the opportunities at their university.</p>

<p>The concept of diversity both in the academic setting and in a business setting encompasses more than just race. A definition includes ethnicity,gender, age, national origin, religion, disability, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, and language. It could also include different ideas, perspectives, and values. With the exception of public universities that have an auto-admit based on reaching a certain statistical GPA/test score the vast majority of public and private colleges and universities have diversity initiatives within the framework of court tested legal parameters.</p>

<p>I’m all for diversity, but choosing less qualified students over more qualifeid ones because they are Jewish, or black, or female, or whatever doesn’t seem very fair.</p>