<p>Is it really difficult to get in out of state?</p>
<p>I'm in the same boat --- but if your grades and test scores are good, and your essays are good and all that, you shouldn't be at any disadvantage.. yeah, UMich will choose a lot of in-state kids b/c it is a public university... but just because your out-of-state doesn't automatically put you at a disadvantage.. if your out of state and have a 30+ on your ACT, i wouldn't worry about it.. they won't hold it against you that your out-of-state if you have pretty good stats</p>
<p>hey out of state is where they get a ton of cash from 42k or so... have the grades and stuff then you should be set... college admissions is a crap shoot there is no sure fire guarantee - kids who get 4.0 gpa aced act and Sat from instate and out of state get denied all the time for one reason or another.</p>
<p>I feel like Michigan's admissions is kind of random sometimes because it has such a large applicant pool. It's not a terribly bad situation, because it can afford diverse talents/levels while still attracting stellar talent. However, it's supposed to be tougher, just like at any school, to get in from the East Coast / West Coast although I haven't been all that impressed at all with students from there, especially the West Coast. That said, it's easier to get in from the Deep South or the less population Mountain/Plain states because Michigan wants to maintain its geographical diversity. (At the same time, from my personal experience, only the best students from those areas will apply to Michigan anyway.)</p>
<p>Early response analysis:</p>
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<p>3.8 UM GPA =match...OOS <3.8 UM GPA = low to high reach (as GPA decreases)</p>
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<p>SAT/ACT: almost irrelevent (based on last year's results) as long as you are within the range. High scores DOES NOT negate above GPA results for OOS.</p>
<p>^ there you have it.. good grades, you're in</p>
<p>wow... greater than 3.8 gpa to get in?? so even a 2300+ wont save a 3.5?</p>
<p>so applying for early response will give OOS advantage or disadvantage?</p>
<p>it happens, but it's still considered a reach....unless something has changed this year....</p>
<p>psp: If you are OOS and DON"T apply early response, there is a disadvantage regardless of your grades...last year, a large % of the class was filled by Dec 21st.</p>
<p>I don't agree with the stats posted above. I'm from New York and I got in with a 3.1 GPA/2070 SATs. With that said, I had a very unique resume/essay.</p>
<p>liberate: did you apply for early response? and what do you mean by unique resume? like super EC's?</p>
<p>No, I didn't make early response. By a unique resume I mean my own entrepreneurial pursuits.</p>
<p>Liberate, did you attend an exclusive private high school (like Deerfield or St Paul)? One where 3.4 students get admitted into Ivy League schools?</p>
<p>No. I attended a public high school.</p>
<p>Hmm weird, you managed to get in with such stats. Well, Michigan has such a well-rounded student body after all.</p>
<p>but notice how liberate was obviously unique with probably his own business</p>
<p>Yea, I ran my own business. Just trying to prove the point that Michigan is NOT only looking at numbers -- which I think says a lot about the University.</p>
<p>yay, im similar to you. i have my own nonprofit</p>
<p>Michigan isn't worth it out-of-state IMO unless you're very poor or on scholarship. What are your financial situations like?</p>
<p>it is a top 25 school overall (well, 26 this year.. but it usually is 24 or 25).. not to mention its engineering and science departments are extraordinary (along with music and dance programs... and its medical school is one of the top 15 ones in the country [it's like 11 or 12, i think]).. i think if you have the money and get into michigan, it's definitely worth it.... of course, that's my opinion.. and they do cost a lot, so that will inevitably create differing opinions</p>