In the Fiske 2020, Rice’s overlaps are: Stanford, Duke, U of Chicago, Cornell, Vanderbilt, Harvard, Yale, and MIT, listed in that order.
On the Chronicle of Higher Education site, 5 reciprocal peers are listed for Rice: Brandeis, California Institute of Technology, Carnegie Mellon U, RPI, Notre Dame.
@Houston1021: The Fiske Guide To Colleges 2020 edition write-up on the University of Tulsa is very interesting. Also, if I recall correctly, the University of Tulsa offers merit scholarship awards.
University of Tulsa:
“The university has a technical orientation rooted in Oklahoma oil, but a much more diverse curriculum than Colorado School of Mines. Has an innovative program allowing undergraduates to do research beginning in their first semester. English language and literature is an unlikely strength.”
Strong programs:
Petroleum Engineering
Geosciences
Computer Science
English
Mechanical Engineering
Accounting
Biology
Psychology
29% major in engineering
22% major in business
6% major in social sciences
5% major in biology
5% major in health professions & related programs
Significant presence of international students = about 16%
About 58% are Oklahoma residents at this private school
51% of undergrads receive financial aid
P.S. The University of Tulsa also has a law school which has been rated & ranked as the best value among private law schools by The National Jurist preLaw Magazine. (University of Georgia is rated & ranked as the best value law school among all law schools–public & private.)
The origins of the Chronicle of Higher Ed data on peer schools:
And a comment from someone who worked on the development of it:
Does Fiske say where they get their data? They may be using a slightly edited list obtained by the same methodology as CHE’s 2011 list.
@Publisher Thank you. I’m glad to know more about the University of Tulsa. I thought it was mainly a liberal arts school based on some students from my daughter’s high school that attended. I’m also glad to hear about the high law school ranking.
Fiske asks the schools to supply the overlaps list.
Occidental College (Los Angeles) overlaps:
Whitman College, Colorado College, Macalester College, Hamilton, Trinity College (Conn.), Pomona College, Pitzer, & Oberlin.
4 Pens for academics
3 Telephones for Social Life
4 Stars for Quality of Life
Strong programs:
Economics
Diplomacy & World Affairs
Biology
Psychology
Urban and Environmental Policy
Politics
Offers merit scholarships averaging $11,600 per year (I assume). Tuition & fees are about $57,000 per year not including room, board & books.
Quote from the Fiske Guide:
“Oxy is a streetwise cousin to the more upscale and suburban Claremont Colleges. Plentiful internships and study abroad…Oxy’s innovative diplomacy and world affairs program features an internship at the UN. Strong focus on diversity and social justice.”
Colorado College overlaps:
Cornell College (Iowa) same block plan one course at-a-time, Univ. of Denver (both schools loaded with snow skiers & snow boarders, Univ. of Colorado, Univ. of Vermont, Lewis & Clark, Whitman College, USC, & Tulane.
Quote from the Fiske Guide To Colleges 2020 edition:
“There is a very large drug and alcohol presence on campus.”
“The Block plan, a one-course-at-a-time academic schedule, is CC’s claim to fame.”
“CC is the only liberal arts college between Iowa and the Pacific [Ocean].”
Colorado College ratings:
4 Pens for Academics
4 Telephones for Social Life
4 Stars for Quality of Life
University of Denver overlaps:
American University, Syracuse, SMU, Univ. of San Diego, Santa Clara, Colorado State, Univ. of Colorado–Boulder, & the Univ. of Vermont.
“A haven for skiing enthusiasts and business majors, DU has become more selective in recent years.”
Academic calendar is on the quarter system.
3 Pens for Academics
4 Telephones for Social Life
4 Stars for Quality of Life
Strengths:
Finance
Psychology
International Strudies
Marketing
Hospitality Management
Music
Chemistry
Computer Science
Readers are welcome to request overlaps for any specific school.
How about info on University of Virginia and Virginia Tech. Thanks!
Haverford overlaps?
Haverford College overlaps:
Swarthmore, Hamilton, Davidson, Middlebury, Carleton, Wesleyan University, Bowdoin, & Amherst.
Quote: “Sometimes you feel like you are walking on eggshells to avoid offending anyone.”
Ratings are: 5 Pens for Academics, 3 Telephones for Social Life, & 5 Stars for Quality of Life.
Yes, college A can know that the admit who went to college B chose college B. But if that person also applied to colleges C, D, E, F, G, then college A may not be able to know that.
University of Virginia overlaps:
College of William & Mary, Virginia Tech, Duke, UNC, UPenn, Harvard, Cornell, & Princeton.
Rated: 5 Pens for Academics, 4 Telephones for Social Life, & 5 Stars for Quality of Life
Virginia Tech overlaps:
Texas A&M, Univ. of Colorado–Boulder, Penn State, Iowa State, Univ. of Texas at Austin, Univ. of Florida, Purdue, NC State.
Rated: 3 Pens-3 Telephones-4 Stars
Curious about Amherst, since it lists 0 overlaps at https://www.chronicle.com/interactives/peers-network but is listed as an overlap by 37 others. If they don’t “play ball” for this, do they for Fiske? Does Princeton?
Amherst College overlaps:
Williams, Middlebury, Colby, Yale, Brown, Harvard, Princeton, & Stanford.
Quote:
“Emphasizing “freedom to explore”, Amherst has no core curriculum or distribution requirements.”
“Among the few liberal arts colleges with as many men as women.”
Interesting that Brown lists Penn as an overlap as the cultures seemed very different to our family. I’m curious about overlaps for Penn.
@ucbalumnus . . . thanks…
Although, there’s a subset to the lists to which I referred in my second paragraph which I am sure you know about is titled “unknown,” and is a large percentage. Perhaps these are foreign students.
And the less college administrators know about where a student applies and eventually attends outside their own is probably a good thing.
While I like the Fiske guide, I have always used it as just one data point. For example, Princeton Review gives ratings out of 100 which I think is just as valuable than 5 pens for example.
One issue I have with Fiske is that they “sugar coat” any of the cons at the colleges and is almost always 90%+ focus on the positives.
IMO, Niche student surveys give you a more balanced and “accurate” perspective on the pros and cons of the campus academics and social life on campus.
At the end of the day, students need to do a lot of research and due diligence on colleges before determining which ones are the best fit for them.
With that said, I appreciate the time you have taken to create these lists.