Pac 10 raiding the Big 12

<p>Read what I said closely. I am not contesting that Stanford is the strongest academically in the Pac10. But, I think you underestimate the strength of the programs at Berkeley and a few other schools in the Pac 10 when you say Stanford “owns all schools academically.”</p>

<p>UC Berkeley and UCLA have had good teams at times. I don’t know anything about any of the other UC’s football teams.</p>

<p>I think UC berkeley and UCLA are the only two div. 1 schools. Davis is lower. UCSB does not have a football team. San Diego might have a div 3 program. Not sure. Irvine does not have one. </p>

<p>Some of the other UC’s have D 1 basketball and baseball. Football is limited to the Flag ships. </p>

<p>As for Pac 10 taking other schools, I think they should make a play for Nebraska and Missouri. Take a shot at them. Then add UT, A&M, Oklahoma and Ok St. I would leave out Tech and Colorado. Keep them as back ups if Midwest tandem goes to Big 10 That would make for the strongest sports conference.</p>

<p>It would also make for a good Hoops conference.
Forget Baylor.
Just wondering, what will Kansas and K St. do?</p>

<p>Cal, Davis and LA are the only UC schools with a football team.</p>

<p>Baylor has a pretty good Basketball program imo. They have Perry Jones coming, so dont sleep on them lol.</p>

<p>socal - you might be thinking of San Diego State, because UCSD doesn’t have a football team</p>

<p>sundoll,</p>

<p>You are correct. Sorry.</p>

<p>haha no worries and not like it matters much in the conversation. I just grew up there so I’m all too familiar with the failed attempts to bring back the team and the “Hook 'Em Tritons - Still Undefeated” joke shirts sported around campus. Which is why I grew up a USC fan much to my mother’s (Cal grad) chagrin. ;)</p>

<p>well, now that Nebraska’s gone…is anyone else smelling roses?</p>

<p>Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com was just on ESPNews - his sources say President Powers called together all of the coaches, etc. today, said they tried their best but the Big 12 is dead and it’s off to the Pac-16 we go. He also said it will be Colorado and not Baylor that comes with us. Of course I want to see something official come out, but I really like this move and have been wanting it for awhile (for purely selfish reasons since I grew up a Pac-10 girl).</p>

<p>The other new development appears to be an investigation by Congress - the threat is that if the megaconference(s) appear to be making too much money they will revoke the athletic departments’ tax exempt status. Not sure how far that will go…</p>

<p>Just curious here, should Texas join the Pac-10 does it have any effect on UT academically? In other words, does the prestige go up, down, or no change at all?</p>

<p>One reason why I wanted UT to join the B10 was the amount of revenue they could earn(though now I’m hearing joining the Pac they could still earn a heck of a lot) and to be a part of B10’s CIC research.</p>

<p>Probably prestige up, it will be more visible to a cultured base (people living on a coast, undoubtedly) and thus enhancing notoriety among educated and worldly people. </p>

<p>Academically, I think it will leave us wanting to compete (friendly) and work together with UCLA, USC, Berkeley, Stanford, which will long-term improve academics. There might something similar to CIC.</p>

<p>Further, it means we interact less with stupids from poor schools, which make us dumber.</p>

<p>jhb,</p>

<p>IMO, Texas joining the Pac 10 is great for their prestige. They would be in a conference with Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC and Washington. All these schools rank Higher academically. Currently, Texas is the best school in the Big 12. I think that being in with better schools only enhances Texas.</p>

<p>With all do respect, Oklahoma, Ok St. Kansas Kansas State, Nebraska, Tex Tech, don’t hold a candle to the Pac Ten schools. </p>

<p>The Big 10 is enhanced by the good academics of Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue…</p>

<p>Also, a bigger Pac 16 will be able to start a regional network like the Big Ten network. This is very lucrative. Also should be able to generate 20 million a year per school from all TV.</p>

<p>Just my opinion.</p>

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<p>True, only problem is should we move to Pac-10 we have to deal with other schools with lesser prestige such as ASU, WSU, Oregon, and Oregon State. Not to mention, we still bring along Tech, OU, and Ok. St. I can agree though that it’d be great to interact with the Pac-10’s top schools(Berkeley & Stanford). But from top to bottom B10>Pac10, imo.</p>

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<p>Thanks socaldad. Very good points. You know, you’ll be getting to see more Longhorn games there in a few years :)</p>

<p>Definitely won’t argue with B10>Pac10.</p>

<p>The Pac-10 would have a positive impact academically, IMO, since four of its members–Stanford(4), Cal(21), UCLA (26), and USC(26) are ranked in the top 26 according to US News and World Report. The Big 10 only has one school in the top 26–Northwestern(12). So, academically, the Pac-10 is stronger and would benefit Texas there.</p>

<p>UT has made it no secret theat they want to create their own TV network. The Pac-10 has said they would be willing to work with UT on this to make it happen. Quite frankly, anything would be better, even a UT-owned network, than FoxSports Southwest.</p>

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<p>So does nobody really consider the B10’s CIC research money. It’s worth billions of dollars and is possibly the reason why every school in that conference is a member of the AAU.</p>

<p>I did a quick google search, there is not a CIC-type group for the Pac10, but it’s a consideration with these schools joining. Hopefully, UT will push for it as that was one of the reasons they were considering joining the Big 10</p>

<p>Just read on InsideTexas that Nebraska has already agree to accept an invitation to the Big Ten. Hold on for the ride folks!</p>

<p>txex86,</p>

<p>Four schools don’t represent the whole conference. You need to look at schools from top to bottom. Oregon State, Washington State, Oregon are pretty weak. There’s no weak school in the Big 10.</p>