<p>I'm applying to back up schools for communications. I know NYU is NYU but...</p>
<p>Which school gives better financial aid?</p>
<p>Is Pace easy to get into?</p>
<p>Is Pace a $hit school? Cuz otherwise, I'll just go to a CUNY school and pay cheaper. </p>
<p>NYU is my first choice but I need to find thangs out.</p>
<p>Pace is really easy to get into, a lot of kids already heard back. Personally, I would pick CUNY honors over Pace. But if you can get into NYU, Pace will probably give you a lot of money.</p>
<p>i just got 17k a year from pace. it's pretty easy to get into though. to get into their honors college all you need is an 1100 on the CR+M of the sat.</p>
<p>esentially, i think cuny hunter would be a better education than pace.</p>
<p>Thanks, guys. But if CUNY is better than Pace then why does Pace charge 31k or whatever a year?! </p>
<p>Bimachris -- how much is "a lot of money"? Is 17k as stephen says the standard amount?</p>
<p>I really would love to think that Pace is a quality back up school.</p>
<p>Cause it's private? Lol St. Johns and Fordham charge around the same amount, doesn't make them all that good. </p>
<p>Yeah, my two friends got 10K and 15K respectively. The 10K has an 88 avg, the 15K has a 94 avg and got into honors. And that's not including fafsa money, so you can get even more.</p>
<p>Quality wise, I think Pace and CUNY are about the same. Hunter's not bad.</p>
<p>sorry that i spelled essentially wrong, i was on my ipod touch! D=</p>
<p>I got accepted EA and they offered to pay for my entire first year. Yeah, my parents were ****ed since I only got 10 grand from NYU. </p>
<p>But yeah, it's pretty easy to get into, but I couldn't tell you much about the school besides the fact that they have a great acting program and a great law program (I think...?)</p>
<p>So wait a minute. Do you find out how much money they offer when they send you the acceptance package? And if you think it sucks, do you ask for more?</p>
<p>Is Pace close to NYU?</p>
<p>Oh! And would you go to NYU even if Pace (or another "good" backup school) offered you more mon-ay?</p>
<p>Fordham's not a bad school, its underrated, but yea, it does cost the same as NYU and probably isnt worth it, but they give better aide</p>
<p>you can petition for more financial aid, but on the whole, NYU doesn't care. you get your package when you're accepted and you can take it or leave it.</p>
<p>this is a difficult question. "is NYU worth this much debt?" (it's the number one question asked on admissions tours!) it's worth it if you think it's worth it. </p>
<p>NYU has a lot of resources, connections, and a lot of pull in certain industries. (i was offered an internship partially because i'm from NYU and the interviewer told me outright.) NYU has a lot of things at it's disposal. (i'm applying for a study abroad program in Paris, graduate studies in religious media.) i think NYU is worth it. </p>
<p>some people say it's not, and that's their opinion. pace university is a good school as well. but you have to think VERY HARD about whether all of the debt is worth it.</p>
<p>and before anyone asks, i don't get financial aid in the traditional sense- my father is a professor in the school of medicine and NYU pays my tuition for me. so i can't answer any questions about financial aid.</p>
<p>nyu and pace are really close...both in downtown although pace is a little further downtown. education wise pace is probably par with hunter or baruch. however, i think that alumni connections must be taken into account. i think that pace has pretty good alumni network so that might help with finding a job, but then again so does baruch. unless you are going into stern or tisch i wouldnt say nyu is worth it. better to go to cuny honors or pace or adelphi with honors.</p>
<p>I say if you are from NYC chances are the environment at Pace or CUNY will fit you a lot better. I have found that NYU has a student body that is mostly white american and asian students from everywhere you can think of in the country, the northeast is probably the most heavily represented though. This creates a very liberal white environment. Most of my classes have 90+% white/asian students. </p>
<p>I think when deciding what is the best bet for you, you should take into account the environment and how that can impact your networking opportunities, also where your friends are going to go.</p>
<p>Overall, there is really no comparison, in all respects besides for financial aid, NYU is the better school. Consider that CUNY honors is completely free and you will graduate with 0 debt. the debt you have at graduation will be 3x as much when you pay it off. If there is a specific program you are interested in I would check on how it adds up compared to the others (average starting salaries and things of that nature.) if NYU graduates are more heavily represented in the higher paying jobs in that industry, you have your answer right there.</p>
<p>Does anyone know how long it can take to hear back from Pace? I submitted my app 2 weeks ago, and last night I got a package from them in the mail. I FREAKED, I thought it was the acceptance package. Instead, it was a letter thanking me for my application and a colored book about the school. Chucha de la madre. </p>
<p>Why would they try to sell to me AFTER I put in my app?</p>
<p>If I apply to Pace this weekend it won't be too late right? The deadline is March 1, but do you think I would have a shot applying this late?</p>
<p>They have sent me a lot of stuff and I sent them a letter of rec and everything.</p>
<p>I wasn't gonna finish the app, but after reading this thread I might.</p>
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Does anyone know how long it can take to hear back from Pace? I submitted my app 2 weeks ago, and last night I got a package from them in the mail. I FREAKED, I thought it was the acceptance package. Instead, it was a letter thanking me for my application and a colored book about the school. Chucha de la madre. </p>
<p>Why would they try to sell to me AFTER I put in my app?
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<p>Hahahaha, you're funny. I hope you get in.</p>
<p>Dear Bimachris:</p>
<p>With all due respect, Fordham University is far and away better than Pace, St. John’s, Hofstra, and CUNY’s best undergrad schools. US News ranks Fordham at 53 for national research universities, Washington Monthly ranks it at 37, and Forbes ranks it 162. </p>
<p>By contrast, US News ranks St. John’s at 143 nationally, and Forbes ranks it at 554. US News ranks Pace at 170, and Hofstra comes in at a charitable 128. </p>
<p>Hunter college comes in at 34, but as a “regional college,” and not as national research university. My wife attends Hunter graduate school (she did her undergrad at University of California, graduating with honours), and she is not impressed at all with the caliber of either the students or the faculty. Columbia and Fordham accepted her, but she could not attend either of these much better schools due to our current financial circumstances. I am neither an alum nor associated with Fordham in any way. I will say that although I graduated an Ivy university (w/honours), I attended some humanities courses at City College of New York a few years ago. The level of the students and many of the professors was, in short, nothing less than shockingly abysmal. The college has never recovered from the 1970 disaster of open admissions.</p>
<p>Although, I should and will allow that the CCNY’s science programs, from what I could see, proved an entirely different matter, and both the student body and the professoriate seemed a good deal more prepared, engaged, and rigourous. Interestingly, most of the students I encountered in the sciences (premed, mathematics, physics) were of colour, and their academic commitment and intellectual talents happily, gleefully, and righteously demolish, in my view, too many racist shibbeloths to count. But that is another story. </p>
<p>Our daughter has just begun her studies at SUNY Stony brook, a flagship university in the New York state school system, and fast rising comprehensive research university (the fifty-year-young university has an outstanding medical school and the university’s faculty have already won a couple of Nobel prizes). </p>
<p>I submit that SUNY Stony brook is the outstanding NYC-area school to consider if the likes of Fordham, NYU, and, of course, Columbia/Barnard are beyond one’s current financial reach. </p>
<p>If such a student/family has an interest in the sciences, then I would give CCNY a serious look, but I would strongly advise against its liberal arts programs. My wife, a brilliant and accomplished woman, views Hunter as vastly overrated and, if not for the current economic climate and its impact on our family, would have gladly matriculated into either Columbia or Fordham’s programs.</p>
<p>Best regards.</p>
<p>This thread was… From 2009? It’s now 2011. </p>
<p>And I believe the point of the post was that tuition has nothing to do with quality of education received from the institution; rankings was never the topic of discussion in that posters post.
E.g. Fordhams tuition is roughly around the same as NYU and Columbia. Yet, obviously NYU and Columbia are leaps and bounds better than Fordham.</p>
<p>CUNY honors > Pace. NYU >>> CUNY = Pace.</p>
<p>As far as prestige or academic renown go.</p>