<p>Our senior has just received her report card with 2 C+'s in Honors Eng & Spanish for the second time this fall. She has applied to some top notch schools, and is not wild about her safety.....We are wondering if she should apply to some less selective schools, given her grades this fall. Any thoughts? Any schools still accepting applications?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.</p>
<p>If you run some relevant search words, I think I recall a thread last spring or summer with late-date acceptance schools listed. You’re just ahead of the game to think of it in February! Does anyone know the actual link?</p>
<p>OP - I am not sure if I would bother to apply to those late-date acceptance schools, they are probably not going to be “top notch.” I would wait to see if she gets into her top choices this Spring. Meanwhile I would make sure your daughter do a better job this Spring. If she ends up going to her safety, she could always transfer after a year, and she will need her senior year grades.</p>
<p>I’ll look. I am new to this site and haven’t quite figured it out yet. She has received a brochure from Warren Wilson college, which sounded interesting to her, and has a app. date of 2/28.</p>
<p>To the OP…hopefully your daughter’s list was a balanced one with reaches, matches and safety schools. I agree that she should wait. I actually know several students who went to their safety schools for their freshman years and transfered to their top choices for their sophomore years. I also know some kids who reluctantly went to their safety and LOVED it there.</p>
<p>Dear oldfort,
The problem is that she really can’t do better than she is now. Both classes base their grades on in-class writing, and our daughter is really bad at that. She takes a lot of time to put her thoughts together. Her English teacher has told us that she is worried about how she will do in college…In past years, she always was able to bring English grades up by her term papers. She’s basically a math & science kid, so we thought it would be ok…</p>
<p>My nephew made the error of applying only to Princeton, Haverford and Carleton (which he considered a safety because of legacy, but he refused to mention lecagy and he applied online and they never got his app). So he was in NO WHERE April 1. His guidance counselor in Kazakhstan found the list of the schools that still had openings. He applied to Knox College and got a good merit scholarship. It was a great school for him for 3 years and he is now at UIUC for the rest of a 3-2 program in engineering. In his case, a school he could still get into in April was an excellent option. Things have only gotten tighter since then, but I wouldn’t rule out looking at the schools with late openings.</p>
<p>My son continued to receive emails from some schools encouraging him that he could still apply even though the deadline had already passed. If your daughter is interested in engineering, in particular, I suspect several schools would still welcome her application. It can’t hurt to contact a few schools that you feel would not be so critical of the C+s, while hoping that the others will not find them reason to reject her. </p>
<p>Is your daughter on an IEP or 504 for her writing problems? If so, acknowledging that might help them to see her English/Spanish grades differently. I think that might depend on the school as well, of course. I think Yale still expects you to overcome your problems and get As…(smile). If she hasn’t been identified yet as needing some support, you might still consider an evaluation to see if she is eligible for extra time or other accommodations. That might help her keep her grades up for the rest of the year and ensure that she can have help in college. It’s not too late.</p>
<p>Wedgedrive - I’m with OldFort and Thumper on this one. Your D made a plan, and I think she should stick with that plan. If she ends up at her safety then she can work hard and transfer after a year. Besides, she may get into her non-safties! I’m leery of teaching kids that planning can be take lightly because a poor result can always be “fixed.”</p>
<p>wedgedrive - many kids have problems with this and it can be very confusing to everyone. It is often difficulty organizing thoughts for “output”. The extra time is really important for these kids who know what they want to say but have trouble organizing their thoughts to write them down in a coherent way - it can be organizational and/or slow processing speed, which can be evaluated. If your daughter can tell you what she would say in response to an essay question but her written work doesn’t reflect that, and/or is quite disorganized, she is probably a good candidate for an evaluation of her written language skills either through the school SPED team, a neuropsychologist and/or speech-langauge pathologist.</p>
<p>NewHope33 - have you read the percentages of students accepted for transfers at various schools - they are incredibly small. I think she should plow forward but new knowledge often makes us re-evaluate and take different steps…it’s not unreasonable to consider adding a school or two if she still can.</p>
<p>Thanks everybody. I think we will encourage her to look at a couple of other schools. I have also been wondering about the 504 option. She’s an odd kid in that her test scores are very high, but she struggles with getting her thoughts together.</p>
<p>I’m not sure what would constitute a safety for your daughter or what types of schools she would be interested in, but the following schools have later application deadlines and might be worth an application:</p>
<p>Juniata
Beloit
Agnes Scott (all girls but in Atlanta and really good school)
Rose-Hulman–engineering focus
College of Charleston
Birmingham-Southern
Penn State–most kids love it here
University of Pittsburgh–excellent school, somewhat underrated I think
Purdue
Rhodes College–wonderful LAC in great town</p>
<p>The following are good schools, but the deadline is Feb. 15th, so she’d have to get the application in and then really push to get the scores and recs in ASAP</p>
<p>Depends upon what you call “top notch” and whether you have any geographic preferences. I seriously searched for safeties with late decisions and found almost nothing. To be precise, for “after Feb 1” I found that our in-states (SUNY Binghamton and SUNY Stony Brook) were almost the best options considering price, selectivity and strength of applicants. There were maybe 12-15 equally selective schools all over the country, and most had deadlines sometime in Feb.</p>
<p>If your student currently has accommodations in high school and you hope those can continue in college, you should look for schools with supportive and good student learning centers or disabilities offices. Remember also, college is not like high school. The school will not schedule a period with the resource teacher or study center…the STUDENT needs to take the initiative in most cases to avail themselves of these services. Most schools DO have writing centers or support offices to assist students with the process of writing in college…but again…the STUDENT needs to seek these out. Not having any idea where this OP’s daughter already applied, it’s hard to say whether or not one of the schools on the list HAS these services. It’s also hard to say whether they student should or shouldn’t apply elsewhere as we don’t know how balanced this list is, the student’s other stats, etc. For all we know, there are already schools on the list where these two C+ grades won’t have an impact.</p>