Parents in MT, UT, MI & CO input needed...

<p>Please help.</p>

<p>Aside from the usual info from college visits and the school's own websites, four of my D's schools don't get a lot of play on this discussion forum (only one has it's own discussion thread), so I am hoping for insights from those in the know.</p>

<p>Please comment on:
University of Utah
Northern Michigan U.
Colorado State
Montana State - Bozeman</p>

<p>Thanks much!!!</p>

<p>University of Utah has a very good med school and an excellent math department.
Campus is nice, safe,in downtown SLC. Quite diverse compared to Utah State or Brigham Young. No insider info though, sorry :-)</p>

<p>Well I live in Montana and sons applied to a few of those.</p>

<p>Utah is very solid University and we really liked it. My sons were interested in Engineering so it was a good fit. They were offered full tuition scholarships and some housing cost help as well so they can be generous to out of state students. However the scholarship required a 3.7 GPA be maintained so they bailed on Utah. SLC has a different social climate however and that may play a role. Great skiing, perhaps the best in the US frankly. (minus Jackson Hole)</p>

<p>Colorado State is underfunded, as are all the Colorado publics right now. We steered clear due to the probable lack of any out of state financial aid and rumors of financial impacts on educational quality. Fort Collins is a great town though. For example my sons were getting great offers elsewhere and all CU offered was 30K of parent loans uhhh no. CSU may be better but I would worry if finances play a role.</p>

<p>Montana State is focused on undergrad education and Bozeman is a fun college town with great outdoor recreation opportunities. A good Science/Engineering school with a record of good job placement in those areas.</p>

<p>pm if you want more info</p>

<p>drizzit is on target with the info on Colorado State. Funding for public universities is poor in Colorado -- and the flagship U, University of Colorado, does best with the limited resources. You would find that the majority of students at Colorado State to be kids from Colorado, not that many from out-of-state. Financial aid isn't good -- even for in-state kids.</p>

<p>Northern Michigan U is in the UP of Michigan- north of Wisconsin's "up north" region. In the lake effect snow belt. Yoopers go to Green Bay or Appleton, Wisconsin for big city shopping (and neither of those are that big). Gotta love winter, isolation. Otherwise I know nothing about the school itself- academics et al.</p>

<p>CSU has an equine sciences program that has been very highly regarded - any idea if this is suffering due to underfunding?</p>

<p>wis75 and NMU has the olympic short track athletes up there training, it has a ski management program, a ski team, and a strong hockey team up there in isolation of course.</p>

<p>NMU is a very good school. The profs are approachable, the student body is close-knit, the campus feels more like a private school than a public. Much of this can be attributed to its location. While NMU is located in what would be considered "town" in the UP, it is not Denver by a long shot! If your child enjoys cold, snow, and all the beauty & serenity of a relatively remote northern location NMU is a great choice. If your child enjoys shopping at the local mall in her spare time, it might not be so appealing. Academics are good, and I believe laptops are included in tuition (remote does not translate to technologically backward!!). In all, a fine choice for the right kid.</p>

<p>Northern is a very good school if you are the right kid(probably not a 'needs a city' kid, lol). One thing to watch out for is alchohol there, due to the isolation, it's pretty heavy. But it also has a very mellow vibe, so don't expect real pressuring either.</p>

<p>Agree about the alcohol, but feel the need to point out that this is a common issue on isolated campuses. Well, actually, it's a common issue on MANY campuses, no matter where they are located! It is true that the less there is to do around the school, the more that alcohol plays a part in the social fabric. Then again, my daughter's friends at UMich sit around & drink as a pasttime --- and there is plenty to do in & around Ann Arbor.</p>

<p>College students drink, that's a fact, however my friends at NMU (generally) drink more than my friends at other state schools. (I would rank them Tech, WMU, NMU, CMU, MSU, Ferris, SVSU, EMU, UM, GVSU; in my very unscientific knowledge of past and recent students)</p>

<p>CU accepts roughly 85% of its applicants. Those who don't get into CU go to CSU. CSU has lower stats which you can check online. The dorms and other living arrangements are much nicer at CSU. I hear they have very nice apartments. </p>

<p>CSU has an excellent Veterinarian grad school, which may be why they have a good equine dept.</p>

<p>Bumping to keep on page one...</p>

<p>Somethings are really hard to keep on page #1 - even over a holiday...</p>

<p>Bumping one more time.</p>

<p>CSU's equine program is very heavily into breeding. If you're looking towards a racing program, look at AZ. Ft. Collins is a great town, but is having growing pains from massive growth. I assume you must be from western states to be looking at those schools? Have you looked at WUE money? A fair number of local students here end up at Montana State, and a lot of them end up back home. Lots of problems getting needed classes and not much counseling. If you're looking at CO schools, but not sure the big university is the way to go, look at Ft. Lewis in Durango CO and Western State in Gunnison, CO. Ft. Lewis is more liberal arts; Western has a strong business department and Exercise and Sports Science. Both are big for kids that like the outdoors.</p>

<p>University of Utah is not worth the cost for an out of state student. BYU is much better and cheaper if you can get over the religious part.</p>

<p>Any insight into U. of Wyoming - academics, student life? I understand the state is flush these days with gas $ - maybe its too soon for these to influence the college experience?</p>