<p>Just trying to find out how common it is to get scholarships at OOS universities, particularly ones that don't have "big" scholarships listed clearly on their f. aid pages-things like departmental or other lesser known scholarships. I'm not sure they even exist.</p>
<p>For instance, I know that Louisiana Tech has a full ride for students of a certain SAT/ACT. What I can't really dig up is, at those schools that don't have those big potential scholarships, is it still worth applying to as an OOS resident?</p>
<p>I would love to hear from any parents who are familiar with OOS scholarships for the following schools:</p>
<p>NCSU
U of Cincinnati
Purdue
Clemson
Ohio State
Univ of Utah
UIC
Univ of Washington
Virginia Tech</p>
<p>For the record, my son has a 2230/1480 SAT, 3.95/4.48 GPA, and will take the ACT (hope for 33-34) in Sept. </p>
<p>I am just trying to dig deeper into departmental or other scholarships. The area of study would be Industrial Design.</p>
<p>I don't want my son to apply anywhere that he would need to borrow a lot. As of now, all of these school are unaffordable on face value running the net price calculator.</p>
<p>Do the NPC calculator for RPI. My son is eligible for about $20,000 per year based on his SAT score alone, and his are not as high as your son’s. </p>
<p>When we ran the NPC for a bunch of public and private schools, they were all unaffordable but the major difference between unaffordable and on the streets was which ones were giving grants only and which were giving loans only, or mostly loans.</p>
<p>Make a spreadsheet of schools of interest, run the NPC (some do include merit awards/scholarships based on test scores, RPI’s does) for each, and make sure to note which have loans and which grants.</p>
<p>If you truly can’t afford as in would go to an Ivy for free, target an Ivy through Questbridge.</p>
<p>Oh wow, I didn’t see the Park Scholarship. Thank you! I doubt my son could get it, but it’s worth exploring. He has some unique leadership for an introvert.</p>
<p>I’ve looked at RPI but it’s not doable. My son didn’t get Questbridge for juniors (I forget the name) as our income is too high (76K for a family of 5).</p>
<p>Our EFC this year with one in college was $9500, so it may drop with two in college, at least for a year. I am willing to deal with that. If we can pay 3-4K a year, maybe get 2K a year from either work study or my dad or older son, and then he can borrow 3K a year, that would bring us close.</p>
<p>I have looked at hundreds of colleges and yes, the most selective ones are certainly affordable. Whether they’re the right fit and certainly the impossibility of my son getting in makes them highly iffy at best. </p>
<p>However, colleges which meet need tend to have an ESC (student loan and/or work earnings contribution) that is added to EFC to get the net price. Also, EFC can vary from one college to another.</p>
<p>Right. We are looking for outside scholarships. There are some special ones for kids with chronic diseases, LDs, and ones at my dh’s work that are on the list. It’s all so complicated and individual. I know MIT allows 6K of outside scholarship to wipe away the loan and work study portion of the award. I don’t know how many schools are like that.</p>
<p>What I look at, UCB, is the billed amount vs. the actual amount of either merit or need-based aid. That is all. The rest I don’t worry about for now. (Travel, personal needs, books, etc.) My oldest son has spent, I think, about $25 on books for two years of school, so I know it can be done through borrowing, sharing, and online books.</p>
<p>So, I don’t look at the package; I look at the bottom line when I run net price calculators.</p>
<p>I take tuition, room, board and fees, subtract the grant/scholarship aid, and that’s the number I’m looking at. That number tells me whether I can afford it or not. So, if that number comes in around 10k or less (for instance, CMC was around 10.5K and Pomona was 7K), I know we’re in the general ballpark.</p>
<p>Sadly, the instate Cal State schools, SJSU and CSULB, come in around 11.5K. Those are the only state schools with Industrial Design. That’s not out of the question, but I sure wish there was a college in town that had any number of interesting majors for my son.</p>
<p>Oh an rhandco, the Ivies vary quite a bit. I’ve run NPC for four of them plus Stanford just for the heck of it, and I come away with a billed amount ranging from $500 (!) to about $5500 +. </p>
<p>I.e. you are looking at net price, not EFC, which is the sensible thing to do when comparing cost and financial aid. (But writing “EFC” when you mean “net price” is misleading.)</p>
<p>Yes, thanks for correcting me on that. Indeed, net price, or to be specific, net billed amount, is what I look for. </p>
<p>And I guess I mean, since my EFC, according to the FAFSA for this coming school year is $9500, I am looking for schools that have a net price somewhere around that number (or less; less is good!).</p>
<p>Is UIC, Illinois at Chicago? We plan to visit Illinois-Urbana/Champaign and Purdue at the end of July and are also out of state with slightly lower numbers than yours, and slightly higher on income. Both are quite cagey about saying what scholarships are available. What I have been looking at when trying to figure out costs is this website: <a href=“College Navigator - National Center for Education Statistics”>http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/</a> Put in the college you are interested and go to the financial aid statistics. It will show you the average number of students that received aid, and it has categories for federal aid as well as for institutional aid. Those that give out a large of amount of institutional aid would bode well for possibly making it more affordable. If my child happens to fall in love with any of the institutions that aren’t very upfront about what scholarships are available, we plan on at least applying and finding out what kind of package they are willing to put together. If I get any better insight regarding Purdue, I will post here after our visit. </p>
<p>Thank you, ArkansasDad. That would be great if you share anything you might learn. I’ve not seen this website but I’ll check it out. I usually use College Board Big Future College Search. It gives general info like average debt amount, average scholarship amount, etc. Maybe it’s a similar site. I have found it useful, but not for nitty gritty details.</p>
<p>And yes, UIC is Illinois at Chicago.</p>
<p>At this point, there are only plans to visit a couple of California schools before my son applies.</p>
<p>My d13 got what I believe his the largest automatic scholarship for Clemson (the Presidential) with a ACT of 34 and a 4.0/4.5GPA. It was 15K/ yr. this would not bring your net cost down enough. </p>
<p>Have a friend whose son had stats not as good as yours. He was not NM. He got a merit scholarship that reportedly made OOS tuition equivalent to in-state at Ohio State, so I would look at their site. If he is interested in U of Arizona or ASU, they have calculators on their site where you can put in your GPA and SAT/ACT scores and get a rough estimate of what merit aid you could expect. They seem pretty generous.</p>
<p>My DD wasn’t even close to NM status of any kind. She received a McKissick Scholarship from University of South Carolina. It is an OOS scholarship award that reduces tuition to instate costs AND provides. $2000 a year stipend. This school also offers the Cooper Scholarship and that reduces to instate tuition costs and gives a $4000 additional stipend. Both are awarded based on the strength of your application. I think your son’s stats put him in the running for them. </p>
<p>Net cost for us…would have been about $10,000 a year.</p>
<p>SC also offers the McNair Scholarship which is a full ride award. Your child must complete the honors college/scholarship application and apply to the school by the deadline for this (it used to be December 1. But check for the current deadline). That application is a doozie, but if successful, your kiddo would get a great scholarship. Plus it’s also the application for the honors college which has preferential course registration and dorms. </p>
<p>None of these are guaranteed awards. But your kid has great stats…I would suggest applying.</p>
<p>I will check out SC, thumper. I see they have game design, another area of interest for my son. I’m sure it’s extremely competitive, but you won’t know if you don’t try, right?</p>
<p>jsrcmom, good to know about OSU. I’ll look closer.</p>
<p>ASU doesn’t come up with enough and U of A isn’t on the list for majors of interest.</p>
<p>ahs, thanks for letting me know about Clemson.</p>
<p>My daughter was out of the country on Rotary exchange her junior year of high school, and could not take the PSAT, so NM wasn’t on the table at all. She got a $5000 renewable merit scholarship for Univ of WA, which is out of state for us. My understanding is that the merit scholarships for out-of-state students at UW is a new program, and it was not anything she applied for; was just offered in the financial aid package. However, that $5000 is a drop in the bucket with the huge OOS price differential at UW! </p>
<p>I do think it is worth applying, because you just never know what will be offered. UW is an excellent school. My daughter’s stats were not nearly what your son’s are, though she did have an 800 on the verbal section of her SAT.</p>
<p>AKFirefly, I know it’s too late for your daughter, but in case others are in the same situation, US citizens who are outside of the country in their junior year can take the SAT in lieu of the PSAT. You have to notify the collegeboard that the student is taking the exam as a NMF qualifying exam. The collegeboard sets a single cutoff score for all international students. (at least this was true as of 2 years ago)</p>