Parents of the HS Class of 2013 - 3.0 to 3.3 GPA

<p>Longhaul,
I don’t think my son’s friends were especially preachy. We belong to a minority religion and he wasn’t made to feel weird about it or asked to convert. He did a lot of hiking. The Appalachian Trail is 10 minutes from campus and he was very active in the outdoor club. [Outdoor</a> Adventures - Roanoke College - Salem, Virginia](<a href=“http://roanoke.edu/A-Z_Index/Student_Affairs/Outdoor_Adventures.htm]Outdoor”>http://roanoke.edu/A-Z_Index/Student_Affairs/Outdoor_Adventures.htm) In his sophomore year he lived in a suite with students that were all involved in the club and they set up outings all the time. He was an Eagle scout and still likes to hike. </p>

<p>A car is not necessary but he’s said that it made life easier, which is probably true at most non-city campuses. There is a shuttle service available to take kids into the city of Roanoke and the airport. No problem with parking. We did not visit Roanoke until after he got the financial aid offer! That was in April of his senior year.</p>

<p>Hey kathiep, where do you stay when you go to Burlington? Thinking seriously about a vacation there …</p>

<p>We’ve been touring colleges in Texas and Arkansas - Hendrix, University of Arkansas, University of Texas - Arlington, etc - and my son has fallen hard for the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville. I’m relieved in some respects, because I know he can get in and I can afford it, but concerned that it’s larger than the LACs I had in mind for him given his ADD organizational issues and relative immaturity. (Let me also add that he limited his choices because he didn’t want to go more than 8 hours or so driving from the Dallas area, and anyway wanted no part of ice and snow either… ruling out Wooster and many other wonderful LACs I had researched.)</p>

<p>His grades are 3.25, and we’re waiting now for his ACT, but from what we’ve been told he’ll get in. He thinks he wants to be an engineer, and while I want him in the best possible engineering program I know that these are the very ones he likely won’t be accepted in. The University of Arkansas has a relatively new freshman engineering program designed to support first year students, including study groups and extra tutoring, so my hope is that this might balance the 20k size of the school.</p>

<p>He has no “hook” and no leadership positions in his Key, Beta or environmental clubs, and no ECs like band etc - all he does really is work hard to make the grades he since since everything takes longer for him. </p>

<p>In fact, our visit to Hendrix was disappointing for this very reason - not a lot of interest, with some not-so-subtle messaging about FA. My son didn’t care for the dorms (“gulag”) or the insanely loud trains 8 times a day next to the campus, and for almost $50,000 I was underwhelmed by their science program.</p>

<p>Our tour in Fayetteville included a family friend who was graduating and on his way to law school, so we really got the insider view of both the campus and the town. But now my son is set on this one school, and doesn’t want to visit any others.</p>

<p>On top of everything else, UA doesn’t require the writing portion of the ACT, which my son did not take when he took his ACT this month. It looks like he could skip the SAT, if this is where he’s headed.</p>

<p>Are we done?</p>

<p>familyof3,</p>

<p>100 page paper?</p>

<p>Please explain!</p>

<p>I’m interested in the Seven Sisters schools (Wellesley, Barnard, Smith, Bryn Mawr, Mt Holyoke) womens colleges. I have a 3.3 uw with all AP classes. I didn’t see much mention of these schools on this thread and the women’s college forum is practically dead. Any help?</p>

<p>@merryhappy- I would say that Wellesley is probably a stretch. Smith too unless you have something that sets you apart from “the herd” so to speak. It does help that you seem to have take the most rigorous schedule (e.g. all APs). If you are ranked in the top 25%, that will help too. You probably have a better chance at Mt. Holyoke than Wellesley or Smith. I don’t know enough about the other 3 to hazard an opinion. If you look up the common data sets online for each of the colleges, you can see where you stack up against their admits for last year.<br>
One thing to note- all 7 Sisters are not alike. When applying you’d want to be able to identify not only what that school specifically has for you, but also be able to articulate what you can give back to that community. Good luck.</p>

<p>HL, thanks so much for the reports! DD had one of those “this is where I want to be” moments… as the mom, its both exhilarating and terrifying!
Given your Wooster experience, do you think a summer visit is worthwhile? I need to do the ohio tour with DD and summer is really the only time when we can make it work, but I’m worried that she will get a poor impression without the lively campus vibe.</p>

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<p>Had 3rd quarter report card conferences today. DS is solidly rockin an 85% GPA. He’s improved from last year where I think he had like an 80 or 82. He scored a 28 on his ACT and is taking the SAT on Saturday. I had to do some playing around with his scores on Naviance to get a nice selection of schools using the “college match” feature. Based off of what’s currently showing in the system, his 178 PSAT scores and 3.0 GPA (based off of really bad 1st quater grades), only about 6 college were coming up as having accepted students like him from his school. I dropped down the SAT score to 1200-1500 out of 2400 and bumped GPA up to 3.5, and about 3 pages of acceptances showed up. I’ll probably spend the weekend looking that over.</p>

<p>My son was accepted at a couple of schools for which his stats were much below the average. These were indeed reaches, but their acceptance rate was quite high. Don’t refrain from applying if his scores aren’t quite as good as their average stated scores. You may be pleasantly surprised. Just make sure to apply to several more that are matches.</p>

<p>NPR - Just saw your question. Yes, Heavy-Lidded was right. In the CTCL book, the author mentioned “the senior-year requirement: an original project and a 100-page thesis.”</p>

<p>HL, we had the exact same reaction to Wittenberg and ended up doing a “drive by tour”. There was something that didn’t feel right for us too.</p>

<p>I really appreciate your posts and have made mental notes of many of these schools. I can’t wait to hear your Earlham report (one of my favorites). I now believe in fate after my trip with DD to North Carolina this past weekend…</p>

<p>I can’t believe it, but after seeing over 13 schools this past year (and a couple other visits still in the planning stages…), she is telling me that she wants to apply Early Decision to Warren Wilson (!). I have to admit that I have had a feeling all along that she’d love this school. Her high school is so similar in terms of the student body and philosophy. It’s’ true, Warren Wilson is not for everybody as they say, but for my daughter it’s paradise. I will post a more complete report tomorrow about Guilford and Warren Wilson (just got back from a day trip to Chicago and going on little sleep!). I took a TON of photos of both Guilford and Warren Wilson, which are both fabulous schools imo (although very different). My flicker stream was updated for those of you that already have the link. For anyone that wants the link, just pm me and I will give it to you too :). It includes Wooster, OWU, and Ohio U. and now added Guilford and Warren Wilson.</p>

<p>More tomorrow about WW and Asheville NC…</p>

<p>jkiwmom and hl,</p>

<p>I can’t wait to read your impressions! Thanks…</p>

<p>jkiwmom, I want to go to Warren Wilson myself! LOL</p>

<p>I’m glad that you had a successful trip. :)</p>

<p>jkiw–can I just hand you DS’s list of possible applications and have you hit them <em>all</em> up? :wink: Warren Wilson and Guilford are on there. Count me among those who are curious about your impressions, especially about the differences.</p>

<p>BTW–I tried to get my older two to look at Witt but I think both had run out of steam by that point. I agree even the exit off the highway looked depressing. HOWEVER, I have heard of kids who are <em>very</em> happy there, including one girl who grew up in Granville and turned down Denison (and many other Ohio LACs) to attend Witt. Just saying, if you can get past the looks. . .</p>

<p>Warren Wilson report…</p>

<p>We left DC around 6:00 p.m. Thursday and stayed over night near Roanoke, VA (about the half way point), so that we could get up early and make it to our Warren Wilson tour at 1:00 p.m. Friday (we wanted to see students out and about on campus so did the Friday tour). This turned out to be the perfect plan, because we arrived around noon which gave us time to have lunch in their dining hall before the tour. The dining hall food was very good if you are a healthy eater (not as delicious for someone who prefers Taco Bell over Chipotle, lol). They had sloppy Joes with WW grassfed beef, and I had a really tasty veggie wrap. My daughter and I are both vegetarian, so she does have plenty of good food options at WW. They even have a separate smaller dining hall with only vegan food. We didn’t know about it until after we ate in the main dining hall unfortunately, but heard that it’s student run and very good. You will notice that I talk about the food, because my son’s school food is so bad that it’s now become an important part of the tour for me, lol! </p>

<p>To back track a bit (the topic of food always gets me side tracked), the drive to Warren Wilson was a gorgeous drive through the VA and NC mountains. We got off I-40/WW exit and the urban area near Warren Wilson is just basically a busy road with your typical grocery stores, gas stations, hotels, etc. We weren’t wow’ed at this point…but then we headed up the more rural road to Warren Wilson. In this case it WAS exactly like the brochure/website with the rolling pastures and green covered mountains. It was truly beautiful. </p>

<p>The campus itself has mostly matching buildings with the stone, but there’s a mix of traditional brick buildings as well. The library was very modern and clean, although not particularly well stocked (two floors though and well organized). They do share a consortium with UNC Ashville, and Greensboro and students can request journals and books to be delivered to Warren Wilson for loans. They need about a week’s notice and can do this either online or at the library help desk.</p>

<p>The new eco dorms were incredibly nice. They were apartment style --each with it’s own kitchen and laundry (refer to “Shafer Hall” photo in pics). Freshman dorms…well…not so nice. There are other options such as “wellness housing” which my D wants to look into more. The freshman housing was old cinder-block type housing and didn’t have much light given the shade of all those trees. It’s probably ok for one year, but it would take a lot of work to make these dorms feel homey. My son wouldn’t have been bothered by the freshman dorms, but my daughter is more affected by her living environment. It totally depends on the kid I’d say. </p>

<p>The rest of the campus buildings were well maintained. If you’ve visited Earlham, I’d say there was a similar feel to the interiors of the buildings and their overall facilities (with the exception of Earlham’s brand new building which is completely spotless/new!). There were students working all over the campus doing their various work study jobs (required of all students and reduces their tuition by $3,500 per year). They were mopping the floors in the science building, using weed wackers, feeding sheep, working in the dining halls, etc. So it did feel clean for the most part…except the stairs in the dining hall. They were a tad beyond dirty ;). </p>

<p>We were most interested in their art department facilities and it met my daughter’s approval. There were separate buildings for the printmaking/drawing/painting/textiles/ceramics and an entire drama building/black box theater. At a near by building students were busy setting up what used to be the original gym for their annual circus performance. We were offered tickets to see it that night, but instead opted to have dinner in downtown Asheville. </p>

<p>Asheville is phenomenal. An art meca is what we heard, and yes it’s definitely exactly that and more. There were all kinds of great restaurants, hip shops, old art deco buildings from the late 20’s. I think what struck us the most in Asheville and at Warren Wilson was all the smiling people. We had dinner at the Mellow Mushroom (they have one in Charlottesville, VA too near my son’s school) and the entire place was loud with laughter. Lots of families and students from all the area colleges. The city bus is free for Warren Wilson students btw, and runs from the college every hour. It’s an awesome city if you love the art culture and are a foodie :).</p>

<p>My D is 99% certain that she will be applying ED to WW. The other things she liked about it were the daily yoga classes offered, that she can actually join the “circus” (lol!), the students have a weekly town hall and have a lot of say in their college (this is what’s similar about her high school now which is a magnet outside of DC), the animals (she loves animals and hopes to make them a part of her work study), the community service requirement, their full year abroad program to Kyoto Japan, and the strong community feel. It’s a unique school and I agree with Annie, I wouldn’t mind going to Warren Wilson myself, lol! :)</p>

<p>I’ll post about Guilford next (and of course, their food).</p>

<p>jkiwmom,
LOVELY description of WW, full of detail and images. SO glad your daughter found her place-that’s such a nice feeling. (It happened for my D as well a few years ago.)
Can’t wait to hear about Guilford, next time…</p>

<p>I hadn’t heard of Warren Wilson, but looked into the school after reading your review. It sounds like such a special place. Why can’t we go back to school again??</p>

<p>Thanks for the WW report, JKIW. I assume you’ve seen the Top 20 Princeton Review lists that it shows up on? Was that your impression of the kids there? It sounds like a wonderful school but I have a feeling it might be a little too political/left-leaning for DS. (Don’t ask me how my kids ended up so much more conservative than I am.)</p>

<p>My $0.02 on summer visits–my kids have been so much about the students at the colleges they visited, we never saw any point to looking at them in the summer. With DS13, we might take a little trip this summer (he has, like, five schools on his list–including WW and Guilford–that are all quite close to each other), but it’d be more for something to do. I feel like he’d have to re-visit any he’s interested in when the schools are in session.</p>

<p>We have done both summer visits and school year visits and the schools we have visited in the summer still have a lot of kids on campus. We were able to get a pretty good idea what the students were like that attend those schools. Our schedule just doesn’t work well for doing school year visits so all of their farther away choices have been in the summer.</p>

<p>I loved the report on WW. It was on the list for my oldest, but we never visited as she ended up deciding she preferred to stay closer to home. It always intrigued me. </p>

<p>I’m wondering if anyone has considered or visited UNC Asheville or Wilmington or Charlotte. I only looked quickly at these schools online, but at a glance they look like they could be options.</p>