Parents of the HS Class of 2021 (Part 1)

@Suave123 and @evergreen5 I just checked Naviance and it is showing that applications from our Hs have been submitted for this Fall, also. I did a little recon and it appears that one person has submitted apps to all of the ivies, UChicago, Bowdoin, Bates, Colby and Middlebury. I guess they have really narrowed down the best fit. ?

I completely agree! I wish they had honors options in math and science, but since they don’t, she is forced into more APs in math and science than I think would naturally make sense for her. She’s all about the APs in English and Social Studies. So far she’s really enjoying AP Seminar, too. Before she started high school and before I understood the system here, I had figured 6-8 APs for her, but she’s on track to have 13
it’s an unfortunate consequence of the way the system is built here. Hopefully she’ll do well and enjoy herself along the way as I want so much for her to have fun in high school, challenge herself, figure herself out a bit, and not be pushed into checking boxes and always worried about the next step. I appreciate the helpful info on Physics. AP Physics 1 definitely sounds like it’s the one that makes sense.

When we check our school’s Naviance, it shows that my D21 “applied” to all the schools which she has listed under “colleges I’m applying to.” But she hasn’t yet submitted any applications. Is this what everyone else is seeing on Naviance? (The reason I know it’s my D21 is because she goes to a tiny school and we are confident no one else is applying to the same schools to which she is applying.)

@amsunshine Thank you! That is what I suspected, considering the timing. I feel better now - I was beginning to hit the panic button lol.

Now let’s think this through for a moment. Might that also be the case for the older purple bars too, that the “applied” number might include kids who put the college in their applying-to list, but might never have actually pulled the trigger? That would certainly change the picture when comparing to the accepted numbers.

Edit, it seems (from some other info I have from the high school) that not all numbers of persons that Naviance lists as applying (per the purple bars) necessarily reported their admission status afterward. Presumably, these people could not be data points in the scattergram because the scattergram indicates a result, but the purple bars are a separate question. Thoughts?

At our high school, if a school is on the “schools I"m applying to” and Naviance has been matched up to the Common App, it will look like that student applied. Even for the earlier years this is the case. I remember asking about the four who applied to Davidson for 2019 and was told that, even though it looks like four applied, non actually did. They “started their app” because Davidson was on their Naviance list and added to their colleges on the CA but then they did not apply. Another reason why Naviance is not accurate.

@nichols51 D will graduate with 14 APs and 1 IB not because she is trying but just like your school. AP, IB or on level, no Honors.

I don’t know if our school has a scattergram (we may be too small for that). I do know that our admission results are not always accurate because not all kids are diligent about reporting their results on Naviance. For example, I know for a fact that D20’s class had a certain number of students admitted to CPSLO last year but the number shown is less than that. I wonder how other schools are able to motivate their students to report their info?

In a normal year you can corner a counselor at something and ask how they get to the admitted vs accepted on Naviance. This year it might be good to send a nice email.

For our school it only shows the colleges the student sent a transcript to for applied, and when a student requests their final transcription the Spring they are required to fill out where they were accepted/rejected. There are still errors, but it’s a solid resource.

In the news today ASU Barrett Honors goes TO in case that helps anyone. The priority admission deadline is Nov. 1. “The earlier you apply, the sooner you’ll get an admission decision and the more financial aid you might receive,” the university said in its announcement.

I feel like this has been discussed b4, but I’d appreciate thoughts on whether my S should use weighted or unweighted GPA on the common app.

– His weighted GPA is 4.62 on a 5.0 scale. His school is +.5 for honors and +1 for AP. This is a very high weighted GPA for his school b/c there are caps on # of APs that Freshmen and Sophomores can take.

– His unweighted GPA is 4.0. Not sure this matters, but when looking at his transcript, his 4.0 might not be initially visually obvious, b/c it starts by listing some HS credit courses he took in middle school for which he got a couple of Bs – but they aren’t included in HS GPA.

– That said, his transcript will list both weighted and unweighted GPA.

Tks for any input!

I read this on another board, but we are a similar scenario with GPA (4.6 weighted, 3.97 UW) and the recommendation was to put 4.6 WEIGHTED out of 4.0. This indicates that a number over 4 can’t be had unless one takes classes that are higher weighted. Hope that helps. Most schools will recalculate GPA with their own formula anyways.

@AlmostThere2018 I checked with our GC about this and she also said to put the weighted number. I don’t know how important this part of the app is. Maybe it’s different for each college. Smaller schools will review the transcript carefully and some schools re-calculate GPA. So who knows how this entry is even used.

@AlmostThere2018 we have a even confusing scenario in which our HS transcript lists 3 GPAs, weighted unweighted and weighted 10-12 ? as univ of CA considers 10-12 gpa only. So, obviously S21 has higher gpa for the 3rd category and he has written that only in common app :slight_smile:

Speaking of grades - how is your school addressing last semester’s grades? Our HS has released both the school profile (no mention) and the transcripts (tiny vague mention of modifying grades in accordance with XXX recommendations), but it’s very much a footnote that I am assuming will stay on through the HS class of 2023 who were freshman last semester.

I don’t know why I thought it was going to be a much bigger deal. Just surprising to me, that’s all.

@3kids2dogs Our school profile online is still the 2019-2020 one. And it only shows the class of 2019 info for deciles and SAT/ACT scores, etc. I remember this delay with S19 too. I should call and see when the new one will go out. Certainly, kids are sending apps soon.

No mention of the grading situation on the transcripts. We had grades last semester. The only difference was that you could keep your grade from March 16th or, if you increased it before year’s end, you would get that grade.

Our schools went with the grades from the last 9 weeks before school closed. They don’t post the school profile anywhere, so I have no idea what it includes.

That was the way our school worked, too. They put this little snippet on the transcript: “District XX modified grading practices during the second semester of the 2019-2020 school year consistent with the XXX State Board of Education COVID-19 recommendations and Gubernatorial Disaster Proclamation”

How vague is that? I guess they just don’t want last semester to define their school, district or students.

@3kids2dogs that proclamation was for all students in Illinois. AOs read apps by state. So, I assume every AO reading our kids’ apps will know what Illinois mandated for last semester’s grades. and they’ll be comparing apples to apples.

D21 is back in school , in-person 5d, with lots of distancing, masks, etc. It is a well -thought out plan and if the kids all follow the rules, school should be able to stay in-person(I am sure there will be cases, because some kids are back doing after-school private league sports which do not seem to have the same strict school-sport rules). Hopefully it will not spill over into lots of school spread, as everything at school is 6ft or more and masks everywhere.
Classes are what she hoped–4APs (Eng, French, BC, PhysC) plus required senior course and honors history(no AP options and already did APUSH&gov), orchestra. For her school, which limits APs before 11&12, her total of 9 plus the honors in all available courses puts her among the top few kids based on rigor alone. That group has way more AP and honors than the rest of the top kids, and they are the only ones who took all 4 of what our school considers the hardest APs. We did not realize as she is our first, but the bar to get “most rigorous” is much lower than that. She took all the hard classes because she loves a challenge, so it wouldn’t have changed anything–just surprised us when the counselor explained it.
For school ECs, she is concertmaster, and president of 2 clubs that matter a lot to her. Her sport is canceled
no surprise really, but many others are happening so it is hard to discern why some are allowed and others not. It is what it is–she is making the best of it and has some innovative ideas she is discussing with a teacher, re-imagining of how it could work if cases remain low etc.

I feel like different high schools interpreted the guidelines differently - pass/fail; grades for 3rd quarter, but not 4th; no finals vs finals. I don’t know. I guess I thought there would be a little more explanation of what was done. It just goes to show that even though it seemed the biggest deal in the world when it was happening, it really was just a blip in their lives.