Parent's View: Most valuable ACT prep

<p>Well, after just returning from to be junior S's counselor this morning to fix his 2008-09 schedule that was not working, we found out that he will not be able to take the "ACT PREP" semester class his school was offering.</p>

<p>S has been on number2.com doing some of their act prep, but feels it's kind of limiting and so we are looking for other prep materials.</p>

<p>I visited the CC ACT forum, honestly, some of the kids posts are so random I'm getting confused!!!!</p>

<p>What do you as parents recommend investing in for ACT prep? Are there any other online prep sites? Books you bought? I'm seeing "RED Real ACT "book suggested often - your opinion? I'm also seeing "PR Cracking the ACT" mentioned often - your opinion? I'm willing to invest in some materials, but want to also spend that $$ wisely on resources.</p>

<p>S does well at school - he's top 3 at a public - but I don't think he does the best at standardized tests - for one, he works slow (slower than is necessary to complete some of these tests). He also tends to read too much into questions - he's a very concrete guy - his teachers are always telling him, "Drew, don't think so hard! " </p>

<p>Also, do you think it matters if we use an edition that is a couple of years old? My husband picked an ACT book at a garage sale recently - I can't remember the title, but the book is a couple of years old....</p>

<p>He'll probably take his first official ACT in December. Truly, any advice on resources would be helpful. Thanks in advance.</p>

<p>My D used the online ACT prep that ACT sells from its website. She thought it was useful. </p>

<p>We were just pleased that she did the prep. We bought all sorts of SAT books for her to prep from--she barely opened one of them. So the fact that she actually did the ACT prep was priceless.</p>

<p>Ellem, how much $$$ for that online prep????</p>

<p>Here are two, fairly interesting online sites to consider-- on is the US Army's March to Success program, which I believe is free (with no commitment to join!), at <a href="https://www.march2success.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;https://www.march2success.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Another one is by the Home School Legal Defense, I think prepared by the NFL for football players (?), but it is a very nice CD package, available for only $14 or something inexpensive like that. Look under "High School, SAT Offer." HSLDA</a> | Search</p>

<p>Hope these might help for self-study!</p>

<p>D is taking the ACT for the 2nd time in September. The first time she took it with her SAT PR prep book. I just now ordered the ACT Red Book at Amazon (third party seller). I did read in the ACT forum that it doesn't matter what edition you get, they are both basically the same. So I ordered the "older" version from a third party seller for $3.99 + $3.99 Shipping.</p>

<p>I don't want to get her too many books because she will feel overwhelmed.</p>

<p>I did look into prep courses for the ACT but they are too far away (Kaplan). D would like to stick with the ACT since she scored better on the ACT than the SAT.</p>

<p>We'll see if she opens this book, she did take SAT prep courses at school. I was also thinking of signing her up for the online ACT prep course. The cost is $19.95 (unless there is another extensive program from ACT, I dunno)</p>

<p>Here's what worked for my son a couple of years ago. No guarantee that it will work for others.</p>

<p>I knew he wouldn't do much ACT prep on his own during the school year because he had lots of homework. But if he could devote 20-30 minutes a day to it, he could finish the whole ACT book in a few months without much stress. I bought the red Real ACT book because it had real ACT tests. I divided the ACT book into more or less equal sections and made up a schedule for him on a calendar something like "Day 1 - Chapter 1, Day 2 - Chapter 2, Day 3 - Chapters 3 & 4, etc.". I think he would do either one long or two short chapters a day, and the long chapters were never more than about 20 pages, if that. I think there were about 4 practice tests in the book (maybe more, don't remember) and I scheduled those, too, spaced out evenly throughout. He took a baseline practice test at the beginning, then another one approximately every month, then a final one at the end. He also took partial timed practice tests each weekend (a science section one week, an English section the next, etc.). These only took like 35-45 minutes each. I usually sat with him to go over his wrong answers and we discussed why they were wrong. I think that's one of the most important things we did.</p>

<p>The good thing about this method was that it didn't take up much time each day so it wasn't overwhelming. It also became a routine after a week or two so it wasn't so hard to get him to remember to do it. The fact that he improved on each practice test gave him the incentive to continue. I expected a lot more resistance from him and I was pleasantly surprised that I didn't get it. </p>

<p>He raised his score from a 29 in junior year to a 34 in senior year, and I attribute it almost entirely to the prep work he did before the test.</p>

<p>If you are looking for inexpensive help, check with your area's public library. Our library system has online practice programs for many different tests, SAT and ACT included, for both students and adults.</p>

<p>We bought several books. The one my daughter found most useful for tips and techniques was the Princeton Review book. She used the Real ACT just to do practice tests. Doing timed practice tests is very important with the ACT as the timing is what throws a lot of students in the ACT. She actually did not like the reading methods suggested in PR (her reading score dropped when she used them) but did find the rest helpful.</p>

<p>We did buy the ACT online course and my daughter did not like it at all. She really felt she had wasted the several hours she spent on it. But she was not taking the exam for the 1st time - she was retaking the exam purely to increase her score to get a higher scholarship. </p>

<p>She ended up with a 32. The science section always kept from getting as high a composite as she was aiming for - funny as sciences are her favorite subjects and she is a science major. (the 32 did help lot scholarship wise :) )</p>

<p>No doubt, his time will be limited to work on prep too. Especially in the fall w/soccer and marching band. BUT, he understands he needs to dedicate SOME time to it. </p>

<p>I thought the online stuff might be helpful and a change of pace from the mountains of book work he already has for school - something on the computer is just another type of learning and maybe he won't burn out on it too quick....</p>

<p>I'll have to go to the ACT site and check their stuff out....</p>

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S does well at school - he's top 3 at a public - but I don't think he does the best at standardized tests - for one, he works slow (slower than is necessary to complete some of these tests). He also tends to read too much into questions - he's a very concrete guy - his teachers are always telling him, "Drew, don't think so hard! "

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<p>While the tests have morphed somewhat over the years, speed is still a bigger factor on the ACT. Slower students who have good reasoning abilities tend to do better on the SAT. </p>

<p>Fwiw, the scientific section of the ACT is a complete misnomer, and doing well in the "sciences" does not translate in much on the ACT. </p>

<p>There are a lot fewer guide books for the ACT, and the guide books usually fall along the same lines as the ACT versus SAT as they are more approximate and tentative. There isn't a single book worth recommending for the ACT, and the only thing worth doing is acquiring all the official material that is available, and staying away from the rest. It is doubtful that organized classes will help a whole lot. If you plan spending some money, it is better to invest in self-practice and then hire a private tutor to wrap it up. Spending 1,000 to 1,500 on the PR and Kaplan generic classes is a total waste of time and money.</p>

<p>My recommendation remains the same as it was 5 years ago: Prepare for the SAT and take both the ACT and SAT to ascertain which one yields the best individual results. With score choice the ACT offers a free look --and soon the SAT.</p>

<p>xiggi, could one use PSAT as a reference for SAT I? I remember seeing somewhere that PSAT x10 = ballpark SAT I. </p>

<p>DS is working on the PSAT and ACT. He is scheduled to take PSAT and then first ACT. Based on the scores, we will work out a plan. Thanks for the tip that speed is a big factor.</p>

<p>I think his PSAT (took the real one last year) was in high 190's and the practice ACT (at one of the those test centers) was 29.</p>

<p>Given your son's profile (top 3 student, slow, methodical test-taker), it is probably a blessing he won't be able to take the school prep course. It would likely be geared toward kids with different needs than his.</p>

<p>If the two of you work well together, you can craft a personalized ACT prep plan that should be much more time effective for him than any generic course.</p>

<p>First I'd go and skim the first several pages of "xiggi's test prep advice" (maybe not the exact title, but similar) on the SAT section of CC. It's geared for the SAT, but a lot of the general concepts apply, and some of the advice I'll give here comes from xiggi's posts. Don't get too caught up in his SAT strategies, because the ACT and the SAT are different, but it would be helpful to familiarize yourself with his approaches.</p>

<p>Next, go out and buy the Real ACT book, which has three practice ACT tests. Depending on how much you want to spend, you might also buy Princeton Review's "Crash Course for the ACT" ($10) which is compact and consise. If you want to spend a little more you could pick up a couple of the fat prep books, but I find these more tedious and annoying.</p>

<p>You are buying the Real ACT book for the practice tests. Don't think of it as three tests, think of it as three tests for each of the four ACT sections, or 12 tests altogether. Get out your exacto knife and cut out the twelve tests and answer keys.</p>

<p>Next, I'd suggest that you, the parent, familiarize yourself with the test. Try taking a few sections (don't mark up the tests or answer sheets, make copies if necessary). The better you understand the test the better you can help you son. Read the advice in any prep books you bought. You'll probably come to the same conclusion that I did, that most of it is tedious, verbose, and smugly written. That's why I like the "Crash Course for the ACT", not that its advice is necessaily better than the others, it's just that it is more condensed.</p>

<p>Next, I'd suggest having your son take one full test, one section at a time, over a four day period. Let him take the sections in whatever order he choose, but only let him take one section per day. Have him take it in regular testing conditions, sitting at a desk or table, no headphones, etc., with these two exceptions: 1) Time how long he takes for each section, but don't enforce the time limits of the test. For example, the Reading Section is 40 questions in 35 minutes, so you'll need to know if he's going over on a practice section and by how much, but let him finish regardless how long it takes. 2) For the math section, let it be open book, with him utilizing his current math book or any other math guide he wants. The idea on this first test is for him to familiarize himself with the test and come to grips with what math concepts he needs to work on.</p>

<p>The tests can be stressful, so after he finishes a section, let him go relax while you check his answers and calculate his score (unless he'd rather do it himself). When he feels ready he can go back and look over the section to see what he got right and wrong and try to understand his mistakes.</p>

<p>After he's completed one full test, step back and evaluate where he is. It may be that his scores are coming in where he would like to score on the real thing, but that he is going over on time. If that's the case, skim the guidebooks for time improvement strategies and have him practice for speed.</p>

<p>If his math score is lagging, try to figure out what concepts he having trouble with and focus on those.</p>

<p>And then there's the Science Section. It isn't science at all. It's a speedreading test. The student is given 35 minutes to answer 40 questions. It's broken into subsections where you're presented with a passage followed by 5-7 questions, then another passage, etc. As the parent, I strongly recommend that you try some of these yourself to get a feel for them and help your son come to see them for what they are. If he's the type that reads too much into questions he'll not like these at all; he'll have to learn to skip a lot of extraneous crap. For example, a passage may have a dry boring intro followed by a complex chart, followed by a question that can be answered by simply glancing at the chart. At less than one minute per question, there is simply not enough time to carefully read and comprehend the intro, study the chart, etc. Your son may need extra help here.</p>

<p>You'll still have two full tests from the Real ACT book to use as you and your son see fit (timed, untimed, skip altogether).</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>concur with xiggi. </p>

<p>Speed is a premium on the ACT, whereas many kids with strong reasoning skills finish the SAT with time to spare. </p>

<p>Reviews of the the online ACT program have not been favorable by the kids on the ACT thread here on cc.</p>

<p>Re: Science. Since every point on the ACT is equal to every other one, do the 'dueling scientists' questions last (since they tend to take the most time). There is no penalty for guessing on the ACT, so fill in all bubbles even if running out of time.</p>

<p>He will likely pick a school here in Ohio or Michigan - most prefer the ACT. Will the SAT reviews still help?</p>

<p>My D who is going to be a college sophomore took an ACT "class" one summer - $275. The biggest benefit it gave was confidence and a few pointers. It was worthwhile, but I think we can do as well, if not better, going another route. She got a 31 on 2nd try and stuck with it.</p>

<p>I will look up xiggi's advice (on a cc thread, right?) and sherpa, THANK YOU for spelling out a great plan!</p>

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xiggi, could one use PSAT as a reference for SAT I? I remember seeing somewhere that PSAT x10 = ballpark SAT I.

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<p>DadII, that is a good yardstick. However, with a bit of effort, most kids are able to do better on the SAT than on the PSAT. The factors here are ... being a bit older, having practiced more, and taking advantage of a test that is more forgiving than the PSAT. The PSAT is a bit shorter and every mistake counts for a bigger deduction.</p>

<p>The (lengthy) thread is in the SAT Section</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/68210-xiggi-s-sat-prep-advice.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/68210-xiggi-s-sat-prep-advice.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Interestingly enough, a few days ago, someone condensed it and reposted it here: </p>

<p><a href="http://freecollegecounselor.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/the-xiggi-method.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://freecollegecounselor.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/the-xiggi-method.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>$20 for the ACT online prep. Just the fact that she went through it made it priceless.</p>

<p>One technique that helped my son (not a fast reader)improve his ACT score from the 1st and 2nd sitting was to first just skim the reading/science passages, then carefully read the questions, and go back to the passage, looking for the answers. Also, taking lots of timed practice tests helped him learn how to hustle along (not to overthink easy math Qs, save time for complex ones, etc.). I did not think he would practice much on his own, so we did invest in a 9-night/27 hour course in which teacher checked on their required "homework" of practice tests. Before his SAT II (Subject) tests, he did use the College Board's SAT subject test books and did most of their practice tests, which helped (and, in fact, convinced him to switch subjects).</p>

<p>My D. practiced only math section. She is a slow reader and she realized that she cannot improve in that area, so she decided to compensate her future low reading score by math. Her strategy worked. She practiced for a week before taking ACT, probably under 1 hour / day. As it was anticipated Reading was by far the lowest of them all, 7 points below her highest - English, but she got 33 and never took it again. She did not do anything else, but practiced math and did not take any prep. classes.</p>

<p>if you kid is slammed with junior year overcommit-itis..I recommend one open book test with an emphasis on looking up answers..focus on comprehension and really grasping nuance by studying the answers. This worked for our son who did 3 of the Real ACTs in more of a timed manner after a slow, thoughtful read the question...now see how THEY answered it, right after you did the problem...
he got a great score with only doing the Real ACTs this way...open book, then timed and serious re speed.</p>