<p>Don't give them an extra essay. Columbia does not like too much extra stuff at allllll. Read the FAQ. They don't even want extra recommendations unless it's from a college teacher who taught you outside of your highschool (i.e. not your friend like Princeton and others welcome, i.e. not your piano teacher. . .). Columbia doesn't even like arts supplements unless you're truly amazing and plan on contributing to CU a lot with it (only do that if you're really serious). And they want you to limit your answers to the space provided. If you have a hard time, you have to do it anyway. That additional space at the end is for unusual circumstances or for explaining an arrest or something really necessary.</p>
<p>sexydesi, i meant writing answers to short questions(activities, why engineering.. etc) on additional page, not on weird-several-separate-lines.</p>
<p>so.. jono, and all other experts on CU, Can I interept the fact that CU doesnt like extra personal stuffs mean they concern more about numbers, and care less about extra curriculum and stuffs??
(i am applying SEAS)</p>
<p>Well, I'm going to have to disagree.
When I filled out my app, I also sent a supplemental recommendation (journalism teacher/newspaper adviser who knows me very well) as well as two copies of our award-winning newspaper. I was immensely frustrated with the space provided for the Why CU question, specifically on the online app, so I made a point to share my frustration as well as put another paragraph in the Additional Information section. It wasn't just answering the question, it was pretty humorous and pseudo-angry. I know that kind of sounds weird. Maybe I'll post what I wrote sometime after classes, but I just wanted to give you some sort of perspective because I did get in.</p>
<p>They DO look beyond the numbers; I am living proof. BUT I would only send stuff that is DEFINITELY important to you/something you plan on pursuing in college. The day after I got my admissions letter, my admissions officer sent me an e-mail to talk to me about working on publications at CU, so that was cool.</p>
<p>But my only nos are: NO extra essay (just a few lines as you see fit), NO rambling, NO random supplements, and don't stress...this process is craziness, but it will all work out for the best.</p>
<p>Geez people get so uptight about supplements. I used to be like "NO i CAN'T SEND IT ANY SUPPLEMENTS BECAUSE THEY TELL ME I CAN'T"...then I went to a college advisor. I was told to send in something extra, even to Columbia, even if it says not to because the WORST they could do is not read it. Anything that comes shows up in your file and if the admissions officer feels like it...they read it. I was told that sometimes something extra in your file helps to tell about you. Once again, do NOT send a bunch of extra letters or information or it looks like you are compensating for weak grades or SAT scores...but sending in an extra resume because you could not list all your extracirriculars or an supplementary letter with an organization you work closely with will not automatically disqualify you for admission. Think to yourself...THE WORST that will happen is that they don't read it. So don't freak out about sending supplements. And about your short essay..yeah I hated the choppy like thing too...just type it out on word first and then copy/paste if you know how many characters it is. Be careful because I applied to CC and the first line had less characters than the other lines. O, and I got into Columbia and sent a supplement rec so I'm not just spitting out unfounded advice.</p>
<p>I also got into Columbia. I read the FAQ and decided I was serious enough to send in two extra things. But NOT an extra essay. Kind of like orchestra auditions: you play the excerpts they want you to play, and you better be prepared with those ones, and no getting around it by asking if you can play this other solo piece that you think explains you better. And the auditions are as short a possible to stay on schedule, and there isn't enough time to play a lot of extra stuff.</p>
<p>So, I sent in a recommendation from the president of the school I go to on Saturdays outside of my high school, and I sent in a good CD of my cello playing, two contrasting pieces like they ask for. If you want to send in a CD or an artwork or a photo or a publication, it just better be good. Otherwise, the supplement won't help you.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and about looking beyond the numbers: they definitely do. The numbers of the rejectees (though they aren't rejects) are as good as those of the admits. Talented and involved people and people who write good essays can definitely convince CU to look past numbers.</p>
<p>yeah if you look at the people that got into columbia..a lot of their numbers are lower than those that did not. obviously columbia doesn't put too too much weight on numbers as long as you pass a certain level.</p>
<p>Probably close to half of the applications Columbia recieves are automatic rejects because of grades/test scores. However, on the next level of applicants, you're right. Probably the top 3000-4000 have close to indistinguishable scores and GPAs and such, and they're only going to fill a class of 1000.</p>
<p>I agree halfway. I think no one is an automatic reject due to scores. There are likely rejectees because of scores but not automatic ones. Every app is guaranteed a fair and complete read. Someone with an 1100 and subpar SAT II scores can actually get in if there's something else that's amazing.</p>
<p>Disagree: I think that if Columbia sees an 1100 it's an automatic reject unless that person has already been recruited for athletics. It's not polite talk, but most of it is numbers up to a certain point (I would think around 1300 would be the line for consideration).</p>
<p>Don't be confused any more. Just send it if you have something that's truly amazing and should be recognized by Columbia. If not, don't send. And don't send an extra essay. They want you to describe yourself in that one essay. And be glad you can choose your own topic. It shouldn't be hard for you to do it in one essay on a topic of your own choice.</p>
<p>It probably would be if math/sciences was your intended major, but not much difference otherwise, as long as you score is very high.</p>
<p>And to clarify, yeah, you can get admitted with a 1100. I said automatic reject, which isn't really what I meant. But you'd have to have a MAJOR hook. What did the Chase Scholarship girl have?</p>