<p>so ahhhhh, how do you get invited to the "exclusive" frat parties? haha</p>
<p>by being cool</p>
<p>So tell me about the more exclusive frats. It seems like the real party is over there. How's the scene with the girls, drugs, and everything?</p>
<p>I'm not into coke. I keep it legal...with bud. I don't consider it a drug because everyone knows it shouldn't be in the first place.
How common is "pot smoking" over at Duke?</p>
<p>from what i've seen, very common</p>
<p>The more exclusive frats will probably be giving coke to the more exclusive sororities...you don't need to join one to have a good time partying/smoking pot (honestly, you should only join a frat if you really like the people in it).</p>
<p>Duke is more of a drinking school than it is a drug school. Pot is nowhere near as ubiquitous as it is on Cal or Michigan's campuses, although there are still a decent amount of students who like to get high.</p>
<p>A decade ago, cocaine had just started to make its way to the school and the use was minimal then. I have no idea what it's like now.</p>
<p>To get into a "top" frat, you need to be cool, rich, well-connected or a healthy combination of all three. To get into a "top" sorority, you need to be attractive, rich, well-connected or a healthy combination of all three. Ideally though, your compatibility with the people already in the frat or sorority should be your primary focus. You can be in a "lesser" frat with great friends or in "top" frat with kids you can't stand. The former is always the desirable situation. I recommend you to all rush and check out Greek Life for yourself.</p>
<p>From a girl's perspective and getting involved with that whole scene: My freshman year, I'm pretty sure alot of the guys in the top frats went through fb and just put all the "hot" girls on a mailing list. I remember getting emails every week about all sort of different off campus parties/things going on with the off campus frats, so if you want to get into that scene then start going to those sorts of things, and hanging out with people who do.</p>
<p>you get into the exclusive frat parties by "being cool"</p>
<p>and ahhh... can you give me a basic summary of what "cool" is? </p>
<p>to put it another way (presuming a few things), how bro-y are these bros?</p>
<p>what's their bro level?</p>
<p>to what degree is it possible have SAT scores around 2200, and behave like they are 1700? </p>
<p>do such bros come off as, well, just playing the part? </p>
<p>(i have this image of all these nerds getting together, popping their collars and acting like the d-bags that pushed them around in high school hahaha)</p>
<p>Yeah they are pretty bro-y</p>
<p>Everyone at Duke is a nerd at heart; the hardcore frat boys just pretend not to be (except they have mandatory study hall hours)</p>
<p>Studying a lot has nothing to do with being a nerd. A nerd is more of an attitude/lifestyle choice based on the topics you like to talk about, what you do in your free time and how you present yourself.</p>
<p>I don't think everyone at Duke is a nerd. Some are, but overall, no. It's not as "intellectual" of a place as say the University of Chicago. Most kids talk about regular things like politics/sports/music/movies/etc. That's one reason I loved my experience there. Everyone is so smart but yet so down to earth and normal.</p>
<p>same here, butttt i did have to work my ass off to get in, and im guessing most other kids did tooo.......</p>
<p>There's one thing I'll say.
People at Duke are disgustingly image-conscious!
DISGUSTINGLY IMAGE-CONSCIOUS!! </p>
<p>I didn't think that 'effortless perfection' article was true when I chose to come down to Duke but it is!!! Everyone here cares too much about molding themselves into the perfect person. I was never like that and don't care to do so. </p>
<p>A lot of the people here who drink like crazy do so ONLY because they think it's cool.. they aren't real hardcore frat guys..
There are girls here who will only date/hook up with people in certain frats- so that has a lot of pressure on guys too to play the game of the 'social hierarchy' (and vice versa with guys only wanting to hook up with girls in Core 4 sororities). They are losers compared to the people I partied with in high school- in terms of sheer 'frat boy' level- not in actual coolness..</p>
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You can be in a "lesser" frat with great friends or in "top" frat with kids you can't stand. The former is always the desirable situation. I recommend you to all rush and check out Greek Life for yourself.
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I agree. I am so happy that I chose to stick with the frat I enjoyed spending time with rather than one of the 'top' frats. I got along with the people in the frat I'm in better.
The people in the top frats are way too obsessed with their own image- I know of a few who are the exception to the rule and actually are cool, nice, and secure with themselves.. but the majority aren't. Also the cool nice people in top frats are usually pretty rich...</p>
<p>oy well excuse my frankness (no, don't) but why does any body put up with a bunch of d-bags nerds who wish they were d-bag bros....?</p>
<p>ive heard (read: read) that Duke has had a changing culture. once there were bros. (well, southern bros). but eventually it got to hard for them to get in so they were replaced with, well, nerds. (excuse the term i know most people aren't nerdy at duke but the point is they are smart). but instead of changing the culture - in other words, making "cool" no longer "bro," they try to be "bro" (?) so now a bunch of nerds, who might have behaved much differently at a school, with a different culture, say Brown (gag me with a knife), act like the old southern frat bros of yester-yor. </p>
<p>here's what kills me: Duke doesn't need to be Brown. Or Yale. Or any place that is so f-ing full of itself with intellectual smuggness. Duke's edge has always been that its the place for down-to-earth (excuse me but this deserves emphasis: DOWN-TO-EARTH) smart kids who aren't too smug to go to a basketball game (and they won't be crying out, "What Xenophobic Tribalism!) or to ENJOY COLLEGE (!). I've always thought Duke was this special place where you could be smart but not full of ****. </p>
<p>But instead of being that unique place, all you ever hear about is "superficial" this and "social-climbing" that. i can't believe that at such an elite university clickyness is the biggest issue! Now, of course, smart or dumb we are all clicky. But you don't hear problems like this at other brilliant schools. (While you do at, say, UNC) (Once again, gag me with a knife). Can't we party but not act like d-bags? Can't we be smart but still appreciate the a basketball game like any regular joe?</p>
<p>Why is it that a school must either be full of liberal-smug-intellectual b - such ******** that it is detached from reality and the country and the people its students are supposed to lead - or it's students have to behave like a bunch of elitist social-climbing d-bags. Is there no healthy medium?</p>
<p>ive always thought Duke was a special place because students could climb intellectual peaks without loosing sight of base camp. but, and please tell me im wrong, it seems so many of them would prefer to pretend like they aren't climbers at all. </p>
<p>someone please tell me IM the one who is full of ****</p>
<p>mondo?</p>
<p>As requested: You are only half full of ****, there are plenty of people who don't do the social climbing and try to act bro and all and not all of them are elitist intellectual holier-than-thou pricks. You just rarely see these people at parties because they aren't bros. And since the prevailing opinion is that the social scene at Duke revolves around parties (whether one believes that or not), then you can see that meeting one in a "social" setting at Duke is about as hard as finding a polar bear in the Sahara.</p>
<p>These people can be easily avoided.
I have friends at Duke who are completely oblivious of the social scene that I personally feel rejected me to an extent.. they just don't care of its existence and are fine with that. They have fun other ways. These are the people who are like.. I didn't even know what SAE was until you started talking about it.. geez!</p>
<p>I feel that I have been rejected by the "Duke 500" for a couple reasons..
I'm too poor.
I'm too nerdy.
I'm not willing to accept a spot as a crony of the big shots on campus.</p>
<p>what is the "duke 500"?...i assume its the so-called "social-elite" or "top frat/sorrority people" that share elitist, inclusive opinions by using context clues...but wat does the 500 mean/include?</p>
<p>so what fraternities are considered to be the "Duke 500"?</p>
<p>And how exactly would a frat/sorority know if you are rich or not? Do they actually ask the occupation of your parents or do they just judge you by the clothes you wear?</p>
<p>Might be the way you act, the things you wear, your comportment, the accessories you have, the way you talk, or even whether or not you stare when they start flashing those benjamins and daddy's credit cards ;) it's hard to tell.</p>
<p>SAE, KA, DSig, KSig, SigNu, ATO, DTD, and Pike are the main frats that people hear about...</p>
<p>mondo has acknowledged another confusion I have: how does money play such a big role, and how can students tell?</p>
<p>i went to a boarding school where there were many VERY poor kids, and a handful of VERY rich kids. But you couldn't tell the difference. some rich kids dressed with expensive cloths and some poor kids did to. (they always found ways, like outlet malls! where i get my mine!) (o and there was no dress code btw). some rich kids dressed all gangster and some poor kids did too. the point is you couldn't tell who had money and who didn't because unless someone showed you their <em>burberry suit</em> or their <em>gun-shot wound</em> you wouldn't know. </p>
<p>what is it that's different at Duke? Does everyone wear their money?</p>
<p>and i know smart kids are nerdy, buttt this IS DUKE, and i know plently of brilliant kids who didn't get in, so you'd THINK their would be some tolerance of nerdyness. </p>
<p>what does it mean to be rejeceted by the duke 500? where do you party etc?</p>