Pass/fail Classes

<p>Does it hurt your chances for transfer applications if you took a class pass/fail?</p>

<p>I don't think so, if it's a small portion of your transcript. But be aware that many schools will not give you credit for courses taken pass/fail at another school. Not a big deal, again, if it's a small portion of your work. Some schools will give you the credit if you can get written verification that your letter grade would have been at least a C. S was able to get this through the registrar and, if they hadn't had it, he had emailed the prof who was willing to document it.</p>

<p>He had taken one P/F in each of his two freshman terms.</p>

<p>It depends, if you have a ton of them and barely any grade-point courses then it will not look good. Schools don't look down on them that much, for example the CLEP exam which basically gives a P/F Grade is accepted nearly everywhere, even Harvard. Just have some good grade calculated courses to show your true potential/abilities.</p>

<p>By the way, see how many P/F courses transfer over. Some schools only take a few.</p>

<p>jmmom,</p>

<p>i was very surprised to hear your answer. i'm currently taking microeconomics, and having an extremely difficult time with it. I'm only enrolled in the course because I started off the semester as a philosophy/business major. Since then (and partly because of the course!!) I changed my major to philosophy/english. </p>

<p>it's such a shame that this (now worthless) microeconomics course is going to have such an effect on my GPA, and weaken my transfer application - even though i'm applying as a philosophy major which has nothing to do with econ.</p>

<p>it's too late to take it pass/fail, but i had figured that a p/f course in the semester before applying would have been extremely damaging to the application. i'm kicking myself now for this!</p>

<p>i know your son was accepted to many top schools, which is where i'll be applying. </p>

<p>what a shame - i had no idea a p/f wasn't a problem for the application.</p>

<p>donpon - it was wise of you, maybe, to avoid P/F <em>but I feel your pain.</em> Maybe my S' experience is generalizable, maybe not. He is an Engineering major. At Tulane, the Engineering program STRONGLY encourages its students to take their hum/soc sci courses P/F. So maybe his P/F was more acceptable to transfer schools in that context. His courseload was very demanding in other respects in that freshman Engineering students take a lot of lab sciences, so generally more credit hours than some others take.</p>

<p>Still, I don't think it is a deal-killer to have taken a course or two P/F.</p>

<p>hmmm..... i'm predicting a B (no more, hopefully no less) for the class. i really don't know much about p/f and how it looks. I wonder which would look better (B or P) for a class that has no connection to my major. </p>

<p>if i get rejected because of microeconomics (which of course I'd have no way of knowing for sure...) i will be one extremely unhappy camper.</p>

<p>so i called a couple of the prospective schools, and they said having a P or two is fine. unfortunately, its too late. i was hoping i could fill out a late petition for the p/f option, but the petition form says:</p>

<p>The following do not constitute grounds for approval: ...change of major or career plans,... desire to transfer to another school,...course needed/not needed for degree..."</p>

<p>you need to have "DOCUMENTED extraordinary circumstances" to get the petition. i wish having 3 of the non-extraordinary reasons would count as 1 extraordinary.</p>

<p>so, with that said, heres my next question: will my application be DRASTICALLY worsened by having a low grade in microeconomics? at the completion of this semester, i will have taken 12 courses:</p>

<p>10 (eng/poli sci/comp lit/etc) - all A (790 SATv)
2 (astronomy/micro) - astro B+, micro god knows (650 SATm)</p>

<p>clearly, i suck at math/science and i'm better at writing/humanities.</p>

<p>how does such a disparity look for top schools?</p>

<p>donpon - Concern yourself with your overall GPA, (without obsessing about it), your essays and recs. Don't worry about the micro. A disparity where the weakness is outside of your field is not a big deal. It matches up with the lopsided SATs, which are also fine.</p>

<p>Do the best you can in micro without obsessing about it. You'll be fine. :)</p>

<p>well thank you jmmom! this isn't the first time you've told me to relax haha. you're kind and reassuring words are always much appreciated.</p>