<p>No. I’m not. I’m saying that the title IX sports are included in the “football” costs. </p>
<p>If you believe UNC would be better off without its athletics? I say start a campaign.</p>
<p>If the athletic department is already losing money where is the stipend $$ going to come from? </p>
<p>Are you suggesting that the other students subsidize the football and basketball players’ stipends?</p>
<p>Also, the colleges are the ones who have made football players in eligible to go pro for three years out of high school. The NFL hates this rule. They can’t even start a minor league. </p>
<p>Look, for better or for worse, this is the system. Also, whether you understand this or not, the fundraising departments at these Us, including liberal arts, including the Ivies, can’t function without athletics. You need to see how this works.</p>
<p>The coaches have offered to pay the stipends at these schools in the big conferences themselves. </p>
<p>Also, it is important the athletes be allowed to have work study if they are impoverished.</p>
<p>I’m trying to imagine the generations of alums in NC allowing the elimination of athletics… or greek life. Their school - their call. </p>
<p>barrk123: Are you a UNC parent, student? state resident? Why is UNC your example? Why do you blame tuition/fee increases on athletics rather than state funding cuts?</p>
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Could one coach’s salary support stipends for the entire athletic department? (You cannot just give “revenue” sports stipends because the other student athletics will claim they are being discriminated against).</p>
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UNC is already charging its students fees to keep its athletic department afloat. Fees that increase when their expenses increase (So if stipends are implemented where do you think the money will come from? Increased fees on the rest of the student population).</p>
<p>Bark, the fees the unc students pay is for upkeep of the facilities for the use of the club teams and intramurals. </p>
<p>If you feel these are a waste of time? Go for it and get rid of those teams too. Also it assists the Olympic sports. If you think the tarheels will be better off without these teams? Again, no problem. </p>
<p>Football and basketball pay millions into the athletics dept. they are contributors not recipients.</p>
<p>You can give need based stipends Bark You’d be surprised by how few of the other athletes are poor. Also. Very few other sports have full scholarships. Most are partial.</p>
<p>Also, just to be clear, look into it and find out who is contributing to the university, who is endowing chairs, paying at playmakers Rams club members. </p>
<p>They want their games. The town wants the games. Go to Franklin street and ask the businesses. It’s bigger than sports. And I suspect this is the case at SEC/B1G/ACC towns everywhere.</p>
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- I have never suggested cutting any sports
- Why did the Athletic department attempt to increase the fee by $90 per student after they fired a football coach and were required to pay a 1.8 million dollar contract settlement?</p>
<p>It is my understanding that UNC has had state budget cuts of more than 200 million since 2008. Tuition has gone up, but not dramatically. It is still an amazing deal in state. I think concentrating on the $90 athletic fee increase is maybe missing the big picture here.</p>
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<p>This thread is about paying athletes and how it would affect universities, not about how great of a deal some schools’ tuition is despite budget cuts.</p>
<p>Maybe the big picture is important here. Are there some state schools which would eventually cease to exist without big time sports? I don’t know. I am going to think about it.</p>
<p>I wonder what creates a community in a world of vanishing communities and big box stores. I wonder what keeps a Main Street full of people in a world of vanishing main streets and strip malls?</p>
<p>food co-ops? book readings? different kinds of communities exist. and that’s a good thing imho</p>
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<p>If I were the parent of a UNC student, who never attended a single sporting event, paying fees to provide stipends to athletes who couldn’t afford trips home, medical care, or even an occasional pizza would be fine by me.</p>
<p>Beyond that I’m concerned some of these student athletes end up with no pro career but long term health issues. That is extremely worrisome to me.</p>
<p>Well, bark is at Rice. I don’t know much about Rice. But it’s certainly private and small. It has a house system a large state university could never afford to recreate. </p>
<p>It’s a very different environment. Except it is in a state that loves its football </p>
<p>Lets discuss eliminating football in Austin, a great arts town.</p>
<p>I don’t see why students who are already receiving virtual full rides deserve to be PAID an addition $2000 a semester/year when it will be subsidized by other students, many of whom are taking out stafford loans to attend the school and don’t have the money to pay for trips home, medical care, or occasional pizza either.</p>
<p>Now if coaches were willing to take salary cuts to make this happen without additional costs to the other students, I would possibly support it.</p>
<p>And again, poetgrl (notice how I spelled your name correctly), I have NEVER stated that these schools should cut any athletics or sports related activities. I enjoy watching College Football/Basketball just as much if not more than any other fan. (For context when I was in high school I used to watch NCAAF 9-12 hours every saturday).</p>
<p>I can’t even imagine a high school in TX cutting its football program.</p>
<p>Barrk123: a student on need based aid should not have to pay more if athletic or other fees or even tuition increases. I know it doesn’t always work that way for FA students, but that is the idea - right?</p>
<p>I am definitely not going to defend salaries of coaches or administrators.</p>
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<p>I’m on my phone. It keeps autocorrect ing your name. I’m not doing that on purpose. </p>
<p>My concern is for the impoverished students who are being exploited IMHO by the well paid athletic departments. My concern is always the students. </p>
<p>It’s not concern for athletics. </p>
<p>However , I’m tired of the conversation at this point. </p>
<p>Carry on</p>
<p>Why would they eliminate football?</p>
<p>Why not sports that no one cares about?</p>