PE classes

Colleges and Universities A-Z Cornell University
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<p>Is it possible to take several PE classes in the same semester?</p>

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<p>yes you can.</p>

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<p>but i think it is only required that you take two.</p>

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<p>yes but you can only get credit for 1 per semester.</p>

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<p>can we take the swim test whenever want? and do tons of people take it at once? i would rather take it when no one else can see because i am terrible at swimming.</p>

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<p>You can take the swim test whenever they have one scheduled before the last few weeks of your last semester.
If you are in a beginning to swim class, you can take the swim test anytime during that class.</p>

<p>Don’t worry about being seen as a terrible swimming. Someone is either gonna be more worse or they’ll forget with their short term memory.</p>

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<p>I think swim test is during orientation week. I signed up for it couple of hours ago</p>

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<p>What’s the logic behind Cornell requiring a swim test anyway? It doesn’t make much sense to me. PE classes in college make even less sense.</p>

<p>PS- I’m a physically fit, athletic, rising high school senior who is a pretty good swimmer. So don’t think I’m a whiny fatty frosh Cornellian or anything like that.</p>

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<p>^ Swim Test is supposedly a tradition. And you should know how people, like the school, have a hard time breaking off a traditional practice.</p>

<p>What is your problem with PE? College is a place to discover and advance your interests in anything. Why should we be denied the ability to try something interesting like a new sport.</p>

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<p>The PE classes at Cornell aren’t like high school gym, and have a wide range of activity level and skill.</p>

<p>Cornell wants to promote emotional and physical wellness, thus the PE classes. A lot of people found new sports or activities they loved.</p>

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<p>^^ I, for one, want to go to college for an education and to acquire knowledge. I know what sports I do and do not like. If you feel as though you want to learn a new sport or skill, then join a gym or something like that, but don’t make me waste my course credits on PE. And this is exactly why I prefer Brown’s open curriculum to Cornell’s required core.</p>

<p>^ I see, thanks.</p>

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<p>a) then why did you decide to even apply to Cornell? Cornell doesn’t have a “required core,” it has requirements, there is a huge difference. If you want an accredited degree, you kinda need to have requirements.</p>

<p>b) You’re not “wasting” any course credits on PE. Cornell doesn’t have a credit limit, and doesn’t charge you money based on how many credits you take.</p>

<p>c) Maybe you should go to college with an open mind. You’re 18, not hot sh!it. Otherwise you’re going to end up bitter and transferring, aka muerteapablo.</p>

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<p>a) What are you talking about? I have not yet applied to Cornell. Cornell does indeed have a core – whether Cornell calls it a core, general education, or requirements is ultimately irrelevant. And no, Brown, UofRochester, and many LACs don’t have any requirements like Cornell – so it is perfectly possible to get an accredited degree without requirements, lol.</p>

<p>b) Really? So what do they charge tuition based on – if it’s not based on how many courses you take? And if I want to graduate in four years, I do have to take X credits, so your bit about no credit limit is once again irrelevant.</p>

<p>c) Someone is angry. Am I not allowed to compare Cornell’s mandatory requirements (which I disagree with) versus a place like Brown’s non-existence of requirements? You’re not doing a very good job of reppin Cornell btw – hot-headed and ignorant is not the way to be.</p>

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<p>a) Oh honey honey honey. You will learn in time. Every school has requirements for their degrees, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to get one. Straight from Brown’s website:
“What Chemistry concentrations are available at Brown?
Students may earn either an A.B. or a Sc.B. in Chemistry. The core for both degree programs is seven courses in general, inorganic, organic, and physical Chemistry. The A.B. requires two electives in addition to the core, while the Sc.B. requires a year of independent study and several additional electives, including math and physics.”</p>

<p>You will have requirements wherever you go. What you might not have are larger college requirements. Cornell’s curriculum is nothing like Columbia, or anywhere else that has an actual core. But it’s okay, I forgive you.</p>

<p>b) They charge flat-rate tuition. As long as you are taking more than 12 credits in a semester (a full time load), you are charged full tuition. You can take as many credits as you want in a semester, honestly, there was a dude who took like 60 something credits per semester, and wasn’t charged any extra. Only time you will get into trouble is if you were in a contract college and taking endowed credits, which I’m assuming you are not. You can take as many credits over the 120 required to GRANT A DEGREE. If you wanted to, you could take 12 credits a semester for 5 years. The only limit that exists is the 12 credits for full time placement.</p>

<p>c) Once again, Brown doesn’t have a non-existence of requirements, you just haven’t looked hard enough, and are still dazed by all the flash and glitter. Wait until you have to apply for a concentration, and then tell me there aren’t any requirements. </p>

<p>You are allowed to compare, as long as you know what you are talking about. It’s cute that you think I’m hot-headed and ignorant though, it’s a nice color on you.</p>

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<p>a) Nice straw man. You realize that you lost the argument about the core/gen eds/general requirements, so you not so subtlety transition into the argument that every school has requirements for concentrations/majors. Unfortunately, that is not what we were arguing about. And thus, my argument stands – Cornell has a core, Brown does not. </p>

<p>b) Taking 60 credits isn’t practical for me, nor is it practical for most people. If my choice is between overloading courses or going to another school where I won’t have to overload, I’ll go to another school. It’s not a compelling argument to say “well, if you don’t like the core and the PE requirements, you can just take 60 course credits, NBD.”</p>

<p>c) Brown does not have a core. Reading comprehension fail for you.</p>

<p>PS- I hope you’re a girl, because calling me [a guy] things like “honey,” “cute,” and “nice color on you” would be a little weird otherwise.</p>

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<p>a) Please enlighten me on what you think a core is. I’m absolutely excited to learn. From Columbia’s website (a school with an actual core) “The Core Curriculum is the set of common courses required of all undergraduates and considered the necessary general education for students, irrespective of their choice in major.” Please tell me what courses at Cornell (other than a 2 PE and swim test requirement) you think constitutes our core.</p>

<p>The FWS can’t even be considered a core, as it isn’t the same course that everyone is taking. It is merely a name saying “you must take a class that writes a lot.” You then have a large variety of courses that satisfy this through various means. I would say this achieves the same purpose as Brown’s writing requirement (<a href=“Writing Requirement | The College | Brown University”>Writing Requirement | The College | Brown University)</p>

<p>b) I don’t even know what you are arguing here. You made the false argument that Cornell charges you tuition based on how many credits you take. I responded to your argument by saying that’s false, Cornell charges you flat rate tuition, even if you take 60 credit semesters. Reading comprehension fail.</p>

<p>c) I never said brown has a core, I said it doesn’t have a non-existence of requirements, like you claimed. “Am I not allowed to compare Cornell’s mandatory requirements (which I disagree with) versus a place like Brown’s non-existence of requirements?” Brown has requirements, you just refuse to acknowledge them. Brown’s curriculum is open, correct, but it is false advertising to claim it has no requirements. </p>

<p>d) I am a guy. You got a problem with it?</p>

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<p>a) Do you actually go to Cornell? Lol, because it appears as though you have no idea what you’re talking about.
[Degree</a> Requirements](<a href=“http://as.cornell.edu/academics/degree-req.cfm]Degree”>http://as.cornell.edu/academics/degree-req.cfm)

^This right hurr would be the core that I’m talking about. Or gen eds. Or degree requirements. Or whatever else you fancy calling them. </p>

<p>b) No, I originally said I was wasting my time on classes I don’t want to take. You brought up the tuition.</p>

<p>c) Lol wut. I was talking about the core/gen ed/general requirements/whatever you wanna talk about, you are the one who keeps bringing up major/concentration requirements. I never ever said anything about majors/concentrations not having requirements. You brought up the major/concentration requirements in a feeble attempt to straw man my argument about Brown having no core/gen ed/general requirements.</p>

<p>d) [url=<a href=“http://i34.■■■■■■■.com/15f0w20.jpg]Yep.[/url”>http://i34.■■■■■■■.com/15f0w20.jpg]Yep.[/url</a>]</p>

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<p>Sigh. I don’t know why I decided to debate someone who told people to “go to the gym” on the finer points of higher education. </p>

<p>There is a gradient in stricture of requirements of universities, and you have presented it as a false dichotomy. I will attempt to enlighten you on the gradient:</p>

<p>On one hand is an ENTIRELY open curriculum, where you have no requirements at all and you are granted a degree upon gaining a total amount of credit hours. No school that I know of is like this.
Then there is the institution that is mostly open but has general guideline requirements for concentrations or majors, this is what Brown and Cornell CALS has.
Then there are schools with guideline requirements for more than just the concentration or major, this is what Cornell CAS has.
Then there is a school with curricula (named courses, such as CHEM 3180, that are required by in that department) within the degree granting department, this is what Cornell engineering has. You have a different major, you have a different required set of named courses.
Then there is a school with a core, or a curriculum of required courses that all students must take, regardless of major. This means it matters not if you are an engineer or an art history major, you must take Literature Humanities, or Music Humanities. This is what Columbia has.</p>

<p>I see the subtlety escapes you, but it’s alright, hun. Subtle differences don’t seem to be your strong suit.
You now say “I originally said I was wasting my time on classes I don’t want to take.” You originally said you were wasting your credits, which I disagreed with, because no, you aren’t wasting your credits. If you now claim you are wasting your time, I will agree with you, because yes you are wasting your time. There is a subtle difference, but it is an important one.</p>

<p>And yes, I am A Gay. An open one at that. The fact that you try to use this as an ad hominem is just a blatant red flag as to why I should stop debating you.
I am losing more brain cells in this asinine argument than I would huffing spray-paint.</p>

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<p>^ You sir have won one free internet.</p>

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I never said this. Another straw man from you. I said it would be wiser to go to the gym rather than require PE classes.</p>

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What is the purpose of declaring this, if I never said anything to the contrary?</p>

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Erm, no. Cornell CALS has general requirements for all students receiving a BA, Brown does not. You’re wrong again. </p>

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Awesome. I never said anything to the contrary.</p>

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Wasting time and wasting credits goes hand in hand, since credits do indeed take time. If you forfeit that I am indeed wasting time, then you must also forfeit that I am wasting credits – since credits require time and time is being wasted. Moreover, I can only take X credits over eight semesters if I want to maintain a normal/average courseload like every other student at Cornell. Your suggestion that I take sixty credits to make up for this wasted time/credits is a feeble rebuttal that does not hold.</p>

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You obviously have no understanding whatsoever what an ad hominem is. An ad hominem is an argument which substitutes an insult in place of an actual valid argument. An example of an ad hominem is: You’re wrong because you’re gay. Lo and behold, I never said anything of the sort. I simply added a one statement “PS” at the bottom of my argument. I was simply appealing to respect. As a guy, I don’t want other guys calling me “honey” or “cute” or anything of the sort. Just the same, I wouldn’t call a girl a “bro” or “my dude,” it’s just insulting. I never even knew you were gay anyway, I was merely joking. Before you pull “oh you’re a homophobic bigot I’m not arguing with people like you” card next time, think about it. It’s sad and pathetic.</p>