<p>So, now that you've posted the same thing on multiple threads criticizing Haverford, would you care to identify whether you are a current student? A recent graduate? I would like to determine whether you have any credibility since I have a child who might be interested in the school.
Edit: Sorry about mis-spelling the OP's name, but I could not edit the title of the thread.</p>
<p>Don't pay any attention to him/her. S/he clearly has an agenda and some issues to work out.</p>
<p>Haverford has a great campus, great students, great professors, etc. In other words, it's pretty great! Pretty much everyone loves it there!</p>
<p>Go Haverford!!!</p>
<p>momof3sons,
I wondered the same. I believe the person in question is a parent. D1 received an exceptional education at Haverford and graduated with honors in May of 2008. No regrets here... :)</p>
<p>I want to know if it is true if there are racial problems in the school so please leave the link for the newspaper article.
Also if you are doing this to destroy Haverford image, you should be ashamed of yourself.</p>
<p>I'm a parent that has a son who recently graduated and a daughter still attending. I'm completely satisfied with the school and believe that both of them had a wonderful college experience.</p>
<p>A little college prank or deviant behavior seems to be getting far too much attention and I am sure that it is not the norm. If a small article in the paper is going to influence you then so be it, move on and it will be your son or daughters loss for not considering it as a possible school for them. The school has a culture of communication that probably rivals none and I'm sure it will get talked about ad nauseam. Anything can be taken out of context and magnified so my suggestion is to look deeper into the total package before you start throwing stones.</p>
<p>For true quality of a college experience, you can not beat the Tri-Co, think about it, the best of 3 great colleges for the price of one. Two thumbs up from me for HC!</p>
<p>Greetings to all the sane posters here. I deliberately started this thread to see if pear4evr would respond and explain him/herself. I guess we have our answer now. :rolleyes: I have one son who is a recent Swarthmore grad. As a result of a group he was involved in, I have had occasion to host Haverford students in my home more than once. They were a wonderful group of intelligent, mature students. The point of this thread was to determine pear4evr's motives. His/her non-response speaks volumes.</p>
<p>Thanks for starting this thread. I had a wonderful experience at Haverford, and my 4 years there were extraordinarily influential. IMHO, HC is the best place in the country for an undergraduate education. (In addition to my HC degree, I have two Ivy grad degrees, and I'm currently employed at a major research university). </p>
<p>All of my friends were happy with Haverford, and remain active supporters. (Of course, it is not a school for everyone.) But, we've all done extremely well. In fact, the 10 roommates I had had over the course of my 4 years at HC (I've excluded the four people I haven't heard about since graduation and one person who didn't go to grad school, but included myself in that number), we, collectively, have degrees from the following 12 grad schools: U.C.-Berkeley Business, Columbia Law, Harvard Business (2), Harvard Education, Harvard Kennedy, Harvard Law, Univ. of Penn. Med (2), Yale Med, and Yale PhD (2).</p>
<p>LOL! I stopped going to this forum for a while because I thought after 1000s of posts, everything that could be said about Haverford has… and anything more would be gratuitous. Well… I stand corrected. </p>
<p>I don’t think the events in question are pranks or youthful indiscretions… more like developmental psycho-pathology to me. I’m a little sad for the student in question. I hope he/she finds help. It’s a way for someone who perhaps feels disconnected or powerless to exert their influence on others as an attempt to seize control. I’m reading this book (“East of Eden”) and a chapter describes 10 year old Cal who likes knocking down ant hills to see the response. It’s sort of like that… and I think Pear4ever's posts are somewhat like that as well. Put up some inflammatory comments and see people respond… same thing as with people who boom their music out their car door… it’s an easy way to get recognition.</p>
<p>Let’s not discount the good that occurs at HC.</p>
<p>Community service
188 varsity athletes getting to Villanova by 730 AM (on a Saturday) to volunteer for Special Olympics.<br>
8th</a> Dimension: Special Olympics at Villanova!</p>
<p>Philly Fellows Program
<a href="http://www.haverford.edu/newsletter/...llyfellows.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.haverford.edu/newsletter/...llyfellows.htm</a>
[Home[/url</a>]</p>
<p>Diverse-city Hoops
[url=<a href="http://www.haverford.edu/newsletter/july07/diversecity.html%5DHaverford">http://www.haverford.edu/newsletter/july07/diversecity.html]Haverford</a> College](<a href="http://www.phillyfellows.org/%5DHome%5B/url">http://www.phillyfellows.org/)</p>
<p>Net Literacy
Haverford</a> College News Room</p>
<p>Here are 2 honor council abstracts. Scroll to the bottom to read the letters.
<a href="http://students.haverford.edu/janderso/Doris%20and%20Schuster.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://students.haverford.edu/janderso/Doris%20and%20Schuster.pdf</a>
<a href="http://students.haverford.edu/code/abstracts/20082009/Odin%20and%20Thor.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://students.haverford.edu/code/abstracts/20082009/Odin%20and%20Thor.pdf</a></p>
<p>Students trying to look after themselves
Partying</a> like it should be - Opinion</p>
<p>Regarding race relations, I was at HC when the % minority was 22% unlike the 33% it is currently. I’m going to ignore the one incident of graffiti in question as that in my experience is isolated. For everything else, race relations in America is a difficult topic to discuss so why do we expect 18-22 yo students to be fluent? It’s a difficult subject to discuss but by the end of 4 years at HC, students leave much more aware, sensitive and facile on the topic. Whether through direct participation, indirect listening, discussion behind closed doors or osmosis… it happens. For minority students, it at times can be difficult. Given HC’s size, it can be challenging to build critical mass and to find people with similar backgrounds and experiences… but that can be a positive experience as well. There are frustrations but at HC, <strong>if you choose</strong> you are empowered to make a difference… and those lesson you take with you afterwards.</p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/haverford-college/241199-weighing-s-s-size-honor-code.html%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/haverford-college/241199-weighing-s-s-size-honor-code.html</a>
Speaker</a> Series | UW School of Law - Gates Public Service Law</p>
<p>Here’s an alumni weekend sponsored/organized by current students who wanted to get in touch with minority alumni. 50 alumni went in February… that says something about our feelings for our HC experience. I would have gone but it was too far of a flight…
Haverford</a> College</p>
<p>Here are 2 accomplished alumni who decided to come back to teach.
Big</a> Science at a Small College - Science Careers - Biotech, Pharmaceutical, Faculty, Postdoc jobs on Science Careers
Haverford</a> College News Room
FQXi:</a> Foundational Questions in Physics & Cosmology</p>
<p>If you guys aren’t careful, the CC moderators will give “pear” a sticky post at the top of the Haverford section.</p>
<p>Hi I am a Haverford Freshman '12 and Haverford has been great. I feel like I have some of the most caring and interesting professors in the world. Haverford has lived up to all of my expectations and I have no regrets. Being Latino and from the Bronx, NYC I thought I was gonna have a hard time fitting in but everyone has been very accepting and given me time to adjust. Plus the fact that during customs week we are offered so much support by our customs team which becomes our family in the long run. Haverford has been a great place to me and I love it! </p>
<p>this is something I wrote in response to something written by Pear (sorry for the bad grammar in places)
I am a Haverford student and dorm president for Gummere, which is the dorm that has suffered the issue of the feces on the bathrooms walls and racial slurs. Haverford is an amazing place and I have had a blast. I am a freshman and i have not been bored ever bc there is always so much to do, think im lieing you should visit. The incidents with the feces and racial slurs are something I have had to deal with bc of being the dorm president. There are many guesses as to who is doing this, but it is generally believed that it is someone in need of help or is just drunk or it is not a student at all which I believe to be the most likely. The college has dealt with the situation wonderfully and I have set up some precautions as to help avoid this from happening again. In terms of the racial slurs which has only occurred once (its not like we do it all the time as stated above by pear), that occurred during or on the first day we returned from Winter Break and is strongly believe to have occurred by a non student. but these are just small things that have occurred and Haverford being the community we are have dealt with it together. That is one of my favorite things about Haverford we always support each other.</p>
<p>Hey, $H*T happens… literally!</p>
<p>[Haverford</a> College News Room](<a href=“http://www.haverford.edu/news/stories/18491/51]Haverford”>Alumni Teachers Make the Grade)</p>
<p>Alumni Teachers Make the Grade</p>
<pre><code> Ron Christie '91 and Neal Grabell '77 are just two of numerous Haverford alumni who return to campus to stand before the classroom.
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<p>When Ron Christie ’91 sits in the Coop lounge on Monday afternoons, savoring a cup of coffee and preparing for his evening class, it reminds him of his undergraduate days. But this time, he’s not taking a class—he’s teaching one. </p>
<p>Christie—former special assistant to President George W. Bush for domestic policy and author of Black in the White House—is just one of several Haverford alumni who have returned to campus as teachers. Some, like Theresa Tensuan ’89 (English), Andrea Morris ’91 (biology) and Stephon Alexander ’93 (physics), join the faculty as professors; others, like Christie and Neal Grabell ’77, visit for one or more semesters and share the knowledge they’ve acquired in their varied careers. </p>
<p>“While I had previously taught professional education courses, I’d never taught at a college before, and it was an adjustment,” says Grabell, a lawyer and former executive vice president and general counsel of a large retailer, who has taught a course on business ethics each fall since 2006 and will do so again in fall of ’09. “I had to remember how I had first learned concepts that are now second nature to me, and figure out how to present these concepts in such a way that others without experience in the field could learn and benefit.” </p>
<p>This semester, Christie is teaching a seminar for junior and senior political science majors called “Strategic Advocacy: Lobbying and Interest Group Politics of Washington, D.C.” Christie, who is also an adjunct professor at George Washington University’s Graduate School of Political Management and runs his own consulting firm, Christie Strategies, approached political science chair Steve McGovern about developing a course that would serve as a practicum rather than focus solely on theory. “I show students how strategic advocacy and lobbying is practiced in D.C. today,” he says, “and give them the skill sets to succeed as advocates at whatever level they pursue.” </p>
<p>Christie feels that his Haverford education well prepared him not only for his political career, but also for his current professorial incarnation. “I learned how to read complex information and distill it quickly, and how to write and articulate my ideas,” he says. “I know that the skill sets I and other students developed readied us for involvement in politics and other high-paced, high-pressure careers.” </p>
<p>As a teacher, he relishes the opportunity to pass on his knowledge and experience to current Fords: “I enjoy knowing that this preparation will position them well for whatever profession they seek to pursue.” He also considers it a “thrill and an honor” to be included as part of the political science faculty alongside Anita Isaacs, who was his favorite professor during his undergraduate days. </p>
<p>Christie is also receiving as much of an education as he’s giving. “My students push me hard,” he says. “They challenge me on my assumptions, and on assertions I make in class. It’s not a one-way street.” They also want to know how his background as a conservative Republican and member of the Bush administration has informed his opinion on various topics. “They like hearing a different perspective, and that’s what Haverford is all about.” </p>
<p>Some may wonder why he chooses to travel from his home in D.C. to Haverford once a week and spend a night in the Campus Center’s guest rooms just to teach one class, but as far as Christie is concerned, he’s living a dream. “When I come home on Tuesdays, my wife says I have a glow,” he reports. “Haverford shaped who I am today, and this is just one way for me to give back.”</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.chilit.org/PROSNTZ2.HTM[/url]”>http://www.chilit.org/PROSNTZ2.HTM</a></p>
<p>FORDS</p>
<p>by
Howard B. Prossnitz, HC 1973, Stanford Law School 1976</p>
<p>Delivered to The Chicago Literary Club February 22, 1999
Copyright 1999 Howard B. Prossnitz </p>
<p>The first time that I heard of it was in the spring of 1968. It was a gray, cold March day in Evanston. I was inside a windowless classroom at the High School studying American History. My teacher was Harry Wood. We were cramming for the upcoming AP exam and had just finished reviewing three quarters of history in 40 minutes. I was not feeling that sanguine about the exam, especially since Steve Ellmann was sitting next to me. His father was Richard Ellmann, the renowned Joyce scholar, who was a professor at Northwestern at the time. Steve was as keen a student as his father, he was a year ahead of me and would graduate as valedictorian. I could not help but notice that he had filled about twenty pages of notebook paper with his detailed precise study notes whereas I was contemplating my own sloppy handwriting which had produced two and one-half pages of a sketchy outline.</p>
<p>With only a few minutes left in the period, our teacher said, “You know it does not have to be like this. When I was in college, we took our exams outside on green lawns near a duck pond. Or if we wanted to, we took the exams back to our dorm rooms and worked on them there. You see there was an Honor Code which meant that we had no proctors. We scheduled our exams for ourselves whenever we wanted to during a two week period. Our classes had eight students and we often met at the professor’s house.”</p>
<p>As one of 1,250 juniors at Evanston High School, I wondered where this mythical place was. None of my other teachers ever talked about their colleges. Harry Wood seemed to be very old, at least forty, so obviously this had been a special place for him. I did not have to wait long to find out the name of this Shangri La. At the end of his reminiscence, we learned that the name of the school was Haverford and that it was a small Quaker college near Philadelphia. Over the remainder of the academic year, Mr. Wood continued to pepper his classes with fond stories of his alma mater. </p>
<p>The following summer, when my father and I made our tour of Eastern schools, I went to visit the place and I was not disappointed. It was as promised, an oasis in the middle of the already tranquil Main Line with expansive green lawns, old towering trees, a duck pond, a cricket field and a club house where tea was served during recesses in the cricket games. A small cadre of Evanston graduates had gone there before such as Jack Rakove, son of Milton Rakove, a political science professor in Chicago known for his books on Mayor Daley. Jack himself is now a professor – he teaches history at Stanford. I felt that I had been let in on a great secret and now many years later, I still feel the same way.</p>
<p>Tonight, I will talk about the history of the College as well as two Fords that I particularly admire, Isaac Sharpless, one of the College’s early presidents, and Charles Robinson, class of 1928, whom I had the honor to know personally. I will also try to answer the question of what is it about Haverford that creates such loyalty among its alumni? Why is it that I return four times a year for meetings of the Alumni Association Executive Committee? Why do many of my classmates feel the same way? For instance at our most recent reunion (number 25), we had our traditional class meeting. One-third of my graduating class of was present. We were seated in a seminar room in a large circle. As has become our custom, we went around the table with each person providing a brief narrative about what had transpired in his life during the last five years. One of my classmates expressed a thought that we all shared. He said, " when I come back here and walk into this room with all of you present, I feel like I am at home again. There is no other place that I feel this way. I know that I can speak freely and from the heart here. There is none of the pretense and posturing that I encounter in my everyday world." What is it that provokes such sentiments? Is it merely nostalgia or something more?</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>Thank you HC Alum for sharing that with all of us, a wonderful, wonderful post. It is just another small story that makes me smile as a parent of two children who are the recipients of HC education.</p>
<p>Speaking as a Swarthmore alumnus, I should say that there is no finer school anywhere than Haverford. I was very happy to be able to take courses there and at Bryn Mawr (including Italian, which Swat did not offer). The teaching is extraordinary, the students too, and the honor code is not like an ordinary honor code (no cheating, etc.) but works towards creating a real intellectual environment in which faculty and students respect each other and create a real community of scholars – which is why Haverford students speak so highly of it. The internal democracy is something that students especially like. You cannot do better than go to Haverford, especially when compared to the extreme bureaucratic disinterest and even contempt towards first and second-year undergraduates that you will find at many large universities, including the most prestigious. You can take courses at Bryn Mawr and Swat as well, and any courses not offered by any of the three (Portuguese for example, who knows why) you can take at Penn – that and the library facilities give you the best of all possible worlds.</p>