Pending after notifying UCLA of a dropped class.

<p>I'm going to have my brother-in-law who is a lawyer to look at the provisional contract today. Hopefully he will have good news for me.</p>

<p>Does anyone know how to calculate their UCLA GPA. Isn't it you IGETC GPA and your major transfer courses GPA??? Cuz when i calculated it, I have a 3.145 as of now. If I do get a "C" in Calc2 (major transfer course), I will have a 3.059. I don't see where my evaluator got the 2.85 gpa that she says I have now. I wonder if she was lying.</p>

<p>hello everyone,</p>

<p>I'm pretty sure I'm going to be one of you guys scouring the UCLA pending threads come time apr/may 07 and I think it's just awesome that you all have some semblance of a support network during these intense times but for now, I have a pressing question... and I hope this isn't irritatingly off topic. </p>

<p>my best friend originally attended a top 50 univ in NYC and couldn't afford it. Had a change of heart, packed up bags and moved to california and began attending our illustrious CCC system. Now, I'm not sure if you're all aware of the "your 4 yr institution units combined with your accumilated 2 yr institution units must not exceed 90 semester units" but this is a rule that exists among the CSUs and UCs. My best friend has accumulated over 100 combined semester units/hours and up until now was really hoping to attend cal/ucla/or ucsd. I remembered this rule and constantly reminded my best friend of it to check with a counselor and make sure they weren't at that mark. Well, my best friend's counselor checked and sent an apologetic letter stating that they had a snowball's chance in hell of attending any UCs or CSUs. </p>

<p>I will be posting this on the main transfer board to solicit others' input but I caught you fine folks discussing people cheating the system, so-to-speak, by not reporting certain things. My best friend has told me that they simply can't give up on school and will leave our community college district and attend another in the area. My best friend wants to start a clean slate and begin their cc career over... (and unfortunately, abandoning their huge extra curricular accomplishments in the process) for a shot at getting into school.</p>

<p>To make a long story never ending... I've been browsing these boards for the past 2 years and remembered people discussing techniques the schools used to perform checks on students to view their academic history and make sure they're honestly reporting EVERYTHING. Now, my best friend is trying to bring up the point that thousands of students apply to the UCs every year and it would be impossible for them to spend so much time and energy on that, unless said student applies for financial aid. </p>

<p>I told my best friend that there maybe ways that the schools can randomly check. My best friend told me that it's a risk they're willing to run for a chance to get into school. </p>

<p>I wanted to see if any of you had advice on the matter. Do you know anyone who has gone the route of not reporting everything on the application? Any input is greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>I don't know y your friend didn't get loans to pay for school. Just to let you know I have over 90 semester units of CCC courses. UCI, UCR, CSULB, Poly Pomona, CSULA and UCLA admitted me (Well, UCLA changed their mind). Idk if my case is different from your friend's.</p>

<p>Thanks for your response, McChowder. My friend's case is different from that of yours (and mine, quite frankly. I too have probably accumulated over 90 CCC units or will by time of transfer) how it differs is that your units are only from community colleges (2 year institutions). The rule only applies to students with units taken at both 4 year and 2 year institutions exceeding 90.</p>

<p>While loans may be the automatic answer to every financial issue, they creat a huge financial burden and are not for every one. My friend took out massive loans to attend the school and decided that it was not working and didn't want to be paying off 100k for years after getting a degree.</p>

<p>Yea, my friend who graduated from Occidental makes 70k a year. But, because he had to pay for college (expensive loans), he is alot poorer than what others might assume. My international student friends are very old (26-30) and have gotten into great universities (NYU, USC, UCLA). They did horrible in college in their countries (2.0 GPA's etc.), but were easily able to hide this. Since you and your friend attended US colleges, I would advice against hiding these transcripts. There was one USC student who was attending his last year of undergrad. Apparently, USC found out about his unreported transcripts and he was kicked out of the school (I assume one of his friends became spiteful of him). I feel so sorry for him because of all the time and money that was wasted. If the risk is worth it, go for it. But, make sure you know that the worst case scenario can happen.</p>

<p>McChowder, how many UC units will you have after this spring? If my appeal doesn't go through, when I apply next year to UCLA, I'll have 100 units. Do you think that will be a probleM?</p>

<p>Kevin, i don't think it matters too much. I know how much you want to go to UCLA, but can i make a suggestion. Don't wait another year unless you know that you will have a substantially better chance to get in (i.e. you applied this year w/o all your pre reqs done). I assume you were admitted to other UC's and want to mention that, although undergrad is very important, the graduate school you attend is what really matters (if you plan to go that route). Because you didnt graduate from UCLA doesn't mean its the end of your life. Remember that our ultimate goals are getting a great job, making friends, and being happy.</p>

<p>Actually, my chances of getting in next year should be close to 100%. I'll have all my prereqs [I didn't have a very important one done this year] and I'll be UCLA TAP certified. But taking this 3rd year to go to a JC will give me the chance to fulfill 5 more prereqs, and that will significantly increase my chances, almost guaranteeing it.</p>

<p>Wow! Then defenitely do that. About the 100 units, it's not going to have a great effect. I was also worried about having too many units, but like veralyn says, it doesn't really matter. It's great to hear you are in such a great situation. Even if your appeals does not work out, you have a plan B which is better. I, on the other hand, am in a bad situation. I found out today that the TPAC is not a binding contract (duh!). That means I can't sue UCLA for breaking it (damnit, j/k).</p>

<p>chowder: tell me what your brother in law says about the whole provisional contract thing! you're really fighting your way out of this whole situation. it takes a lot to not give up. good for you! yea good luck to both of us!</p>

<p>McChowder, what is your major? Have you fulfilled all your prereqs?</p>

<p>My major is Bizecon. Read post #141 to see the situation I am in.</p>

<p>Lilaz, read the end of post #190 (pg. 10). :(</p>

<p>OK, so if you're done with all your prereqs, UCLA is do or die for you this year huh? Whats your plan B?</p>

<p>UCI Bizecon. I think I have a good chance at UCLA considering they admitted me, then withdrew my admission because an "I" that will be "C" or better after Spring finals. But then again, who knows. Maybe I have the same chances as an appeals student: very slim. :(</p>

<p>If I don't get re-admission to UCLA, I think alot of UCLA prospective students are gonna be scared out of their minds. LOL. They are gonna be washing their hands 5 times a day and walking around w/dust masks trying to ensure they don't get sick.</p>

<p>Yeah, thanks for the input! I remembered hearing about those cases of schools looking into students' records once admitted. It would be a HUGE bummer to be in a school and finishing up and then thrown out. Talk about financial burden!</p>

<p>Well best of luck to you McChowder... don't give up on that. </p>

<p>Kevin, I wouldn't worry about your units. I was really paranoid about having more than 80 (semester) or so having read about that rule I mentioned above but I've verified over a bagillion times with counselors (only god knows how much they know and how qualified they are at most schools) and UC campus reps that it only applies to students with units from a 4 year school combined with those from a 2 year. I <em>really</em> don't understand that rule either, but hey, I'm not on the UC policy board so I don't know. As for your decision to go it another year... I was in your exact same shoes in november when deciding to apply at all or not and I decided to forgoe the app fees and buy a few concert tickets instead and in the end I'm really happy with my decision to stay a 3rd year considering I realized I would be a much stronger/competitive applicant with another year, a stronger gpa and the TAP under my belt.</p>

<p>best of luck to everyone!</p>

<p>Stop being so bitter McChowder, those threats aren't really funny.</p>

<p>veralyn, thanks! But whats the rule about not transferrign more than 80 semester units?</p>