Penn CAS vs Cornell CAS

<p>I want to get into business/finance/banking/consulting. </p>

<p>Probably an econ major and math minor, but any better suggestions let me know. What do you guys think?</p>

<p>Why didn’t you apply to Wharton instead of the College?</p>

<p>I didn’t think I had a chance of getting in. I have no demonstrated interest in business. And I didn’t want to throw my chance of attending Penn.</p>

<p>I don’t know that there is a big difference.
You can always consider transferring from penn cas to wharton after a year or two, though that may not be easy.
If it is business you want, the nice thing about going to school in a city, like philadelphia or NYC is that there are part time jobs in the field. Almost everyone from my school that went to NYU Stern business undergrad is working part time in either marketing or finance or whatever they are studying by the second half of their freshman year or by sophomore year. Not only are they gaining real experience, some of them are getting paid. That is probably true of penn students who want to work in finance or a business related field as Philly is also a pretty big city with a lot of financial offices. I know Ithaca is a small city, but I don’t think there is much in the way of banking or consulting going on.
Just pick the place that is best for you.
Penn cas or wharton have become so very difficult in terms of admissions, like 1/2 the acceptance rate of cornell, so you should be very proud of both of your options. Cornell is also known to be heavily recruited by NY financial firms.
Good luck.</p>

<p>Where did you find Penn CAS acceptance rate?</p>

<p>[Mathacle’s</a> Blog](<a href=“http://mathacle.blogspot.com/]Mathacle’s”>http://mathacle.blogspot.com/)
they don’t break out wharton v cas
but the overall rate is significantly different for cornell and penn, and that includes cornell’s aem and architecture which have very low admit rates.
hope this is helpful.
The main point of my post - responding to the op -was that when you are studying finance / business, it is nice to be near firms where you can try and get part time work and experience.
At a tour I took of Penn’s campus, the admissions rep said that many of the undergrads at Penn, especially Wharton, are already working part time so as to try and get their foot in the door in the finance field or whatever field they were studying, even journalism - which our tour guide said she had a part time job at a major paper in phily and her boyfriend was doing research at a genetics lab of a publicly traded company in philly since his freshman year. makes sense I guess if you go to a school where you can walk to work at some of the most major financial firms in the world, even if it is an unpaid internship.</p>

<p>That blog says Penn admitted 12.3% overall. They dont show Penn CAS individually. It is common belief that Wharton is materially more selective than the other colleges, many consider it (meaning Wharton, not Penn Cas)on par with Harvard and Yale these days, for wall street purposes. </p>

<p>If Wharton admitted 7% of applicants, that means the rest of Penn admitted close to 15%. Penn CAS admit rate might be around 14%. We have no idea. Cornell CAS admitted 15.7% last year, seems like should be about the same this year.</p>

<p>What would motivate you to print that Penn CAS was nearly twice as selective as Cornell CAS, when they don’t provide any such numbers and even the numbers your referenced do not in any way support this statement ??</p>

<p>Can you explain that please, englandern?</p>

<p>Agree monydad. Furthermore Penn’s much more aggressive use of ED serves to lower its admit rate. If Cornell CAS admitted fully half its class ED [like Penn,] its admit rate might be lower than that of Penn CAS.</p>

<p>Definitely Penn. Wharton. 'Nuff said.</p>

<p>The waitlist numbers for all schools are just crazy…I think that colleges want low admit rates, so they admit a few, knowing that they’ll have a good group who will stick with them through the waitlist period. When they do take some from their waitlists, those numbers don’t make the admit rate go up, so they look more selective. Why don’t they just admit 100 and have a vast waitlist? That would make their admit rate REALLY low. Such a game…</p>

<p>I love the openness of Cornell - their 7 colleges are all so different and look for so many different things in their applicants. Maybe some of the colleges have a higher admit rate, or lower overall average GPA’s/SAT’s…they just lump it all together and keep each class a class. My son is so looking forward being around kids majoring in anything from sheep to chemical engineering. What a broadening experience that is!</p>

<p>ArarVen I’m not in Wharton. I’m in CAS. Would you still maintain the Penn position?</p>

<p>he’s in the waitlist for cornell. He wants people not go to there so he gets in lol.
Do Penn if you like it there/ have more options with wharton and city areas.</p>

<p>Wouldn’t ascribe much credibility to ArarVen, who is trying to get into Cornell off the wait list. One thing you may want to consider re Penn CAS is competing with 650 Wharton undergrads in your class for the same finance jobs.</p>

<p>Ah, true that.</p>

<p>yes he seems to like every school better than Cornell (except for him /her self) LOL well can’t blame him for trying!</p>

<p>@monydad, interesting post. you said if penn wharton “admitted 7% of applicants”
where did you get that 7% number from or was that just an example.
it could be that penn and cornell cas have similar admit rates
but again, the op was talking about his opportunities in banking/ finance.
The op should do wherever is best for him or her. The one thing I said above that I think is true is that if one wants to go into finance or banking, major cities have a lot of part time job opportunities and internships while in college, that the OP may not be able to get in Ithaca. The tour guide at penn said that many of the kids in their colleges - cas and wharton, are able to get internships and part time jobs in various fields during the school year, including journalism and finance because Philly is a pretty decent sized city. That is only one consideration. whether the op is in cas or wharton at Penn, he probably has a better time getting internships and part time work in finance/banking in philly as opposed to Ithaca, but I really don’t know much about Ithaca’s business industry I have heard that some schools, like NYU Stern encourage their undergrads to get part time work / internhips during the school year to help get their foot in the door.</p>

<p>“The one thing I said above that I think is true…”</p>

<p>Suggest going forward only say what is true in the first place, that will relieve the need for subsequent CC posts correcting you.</p>

<p>I don’t know if this is really important to you, but I’m a math major at Cornell and there is no math minor here. But one of my friends is a math/econ double major and she says it works out really well, with a lot of overlap (she’s even graduating in 3 years).</p>

<p>I’m definitely leaning toward Penn, but I just found that Cornell is offering me $4000-5000 more for a similar cost of attendance. Is Penn still worth the extra money? Would they be able to match Cornell’s offer?</p>

<p>That assumes it was worth the money straight up. That was your call, so you have to decide about the $$ too.</p>