<p>They're my favorites. I can't decide which I should apply early to.</p>
<p>Help!? Suggestions..?!</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>See, I love both of the schools’ academic rigor as well as their proximities to cities. And of course, I’m a feminist! Also, I feel that both schools have ample opportunity for scientific research (my calling) as well as vibrant world language curriculums. As I survey my heaping list, these two schools seem to be flawless.</p>
<p>Please offer your suggestions as to what one school has that the other doesn’t.</p>
<p>Your asking about a college that few people know because it is an all girls school and doesn’t get as much publicity. I personally haven’t ever heard of this school. So sorry. Just wanted to tell you a reason why people aren’t answering your thread.</p>
<p>sorry grammar OCD</p>
<p>“Your asking about a college”…“YOU’RE asking about a college”</p>
<p>I was deciding between these schools at the end of RD. In the end, I decided on Penn mostly because I had already gone to an all girls school for hs. Either is a great choice, I wouldn’t stress too much.</p>
<p>if you consider that college is your transition into adulthood, I don’t see how an all girl school could possibly prepare you for the real world. Go upenn</p>
<p>^^ agreed.</p>
<p>^ guys, be realistic. barnard is right across the street from columbia in the middle of nyc. this isn’t like an isolated college in the middle of nowhere!</p>
<p>well i could kind of understand penn vs. columbia, even though penn kills columbia, but it’s really hard to compare barnard and penn. i would go w/ penn if yr asking which is able to provide the better education. also, i think boys add a lot 2 the college experience</p>
<p>Haha, let’s not forget that Barnard girls have no shortage of guys very, very nearby…
Go with wherever you feel most comfortable, pesto :)</p>
<p>I’d pick Penn. Maybe you could find an application from circa 1960 and apply to Penn’s College for Women :)</p>
<p>Both are great schools and would be a great opportunity. I would suggest visiting both schools … they have VERY different attributes and VERY different feels to them. Penn and Columbia while they look very similar on paper have some pretty big differences (Columbia’s core, for example) and definately had a different vibe. From Columbia the short walk across the street to Barnard leads to a very different experience. Again I would suggest visiting both … my daughter and I did and we both knew about 5 minutes into the Barnard tour that was the place for her … a Barnard 2013 ED admit.</p>
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<p>haha thanks!</p>
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Yes but what about working experience? Team work? Collaboration? I mean you get to see guys BUT you DON’T get to ever to work with them in a group or collaborate together for a project for school. So you loose co-ed teamwork experience, you’re always working with girls at Barnard. And that can hurt when it comes to jobs where you have to work with the opposite gender. You will have four years of experience with working with girls but you won’t have much experience working with guys during that period. This can (but not always) cause issues because you would have an expectation that the male team members would a certain way (that girls do in a team) but don’t because their are not girls.
That’s my $0.02.</p>
<p>^ Completely wrong. Except for the Columbia core classes, that Barnard students don’t take, the two colleges are almost completely integrated at the classroom level. Most departments at the two colleges function as a single department with a single set of co-ordinated course offerings. (A few don’t, based on historical feuding.) Special and interdisciplinary programs are split between the colleges. A Columbia Urban Studies major will have had all of his or her major-sponsored courses at Barnard. Some upperclasswomen at Columbia also choose to live in the Barnard dorms.</p>
<p>The ways in which they are not integrated is that they have different administrations and advising, different dorms (and there are no men in the Barnard dorms), radically different general education requirements (Columbia Core Curriculum vs. Barnard’s “seven ways of knowing” distributional system), and I think there are some Barnard-only seminars. Also, they have different traditions and different feels.</p>
<p>Barnard admissions have gotten much, much more competitive over the past 7-8 years. A decade ago, Barnard was a stone safety for a woman with Ivy-quality stats. That isn’t true at all anymore, and there is some suspicion that Barnard tries to weed out any applicants who seem like they are using it as a safety and they really want Columbia. But of course if you apply ED, that isn’t an issue at all. Barnard ED is substantially less competitive than Penn ED. If you are the kind of student who could make a credible ED application to Penn, and instead you apply to Barnard ED, you have a very, very high likelihood of acceptance.</p>
<p>Never mind then, my bad.</p>
<p>another thought … search for threads about attending women’s colleges … or about Barnard itself. Here is one comparing Columbia to Barnard … <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/barnard-college/625022-how-easy-hard-go-barnard-columbia-2.html?highlight=barnard[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/barnard-college/625022-how-easy-hard-go-barnard-columbia-2.html?highlight=barnard</a>. While this compares Barnard to Columbia to some degree the differences that stand out are compared to a larger co-ed top research university.</p>
<p>Thank you so much guys! I appreciate it!</p>
<p>Some things that people said really hit home.</p>
<p>All in all, Penn is my first choice. :]</p>
<p>yay!</p>
<p>10char</p>
<p>woot, Penn FTW! <3</p>