<p>Any one has the statistics to the average engineering graduating GPA? Especially from the Bioengineering program? Thanks.</p>
<p>As far as I know, Penn doesn't release GPA statistics by major or school, or probably at all.</p>
<p>I would guess that engineers in general graduate in the 3.1-3.2 range, with BE majors probably being right around there.</p>
<p>From what I've heard, Whartonites graduate around 3.3 and people in CAS 3.4.</p>
<p>well, back in the day the average seas gpa was a 2.8</p>
<p>no idea what it is now, probably higher</p>
<p>and given the successful rate of acceptance for engineers into grad programs, especially of be students to med school, it can't be that bad</p>
<p>I wonder how successful are SEAS students in gaining admissions into the top MBA programs, i.e. Wharton, Stanford and Harvard?</p>
<p>I know the working experience counts a great deal, but I heard that your GPA also matters. In which case, we might be hurting ourselves going to a tough program with little grade inflation. Although Penn's prestige might help in landing a good job, hence good working experience i guess.</p>
<p>Any thought, anyone?</p>
<p>i don't know how many seas students pursue an mba after graduation, but i'd wager we're doing quite well.</p>
<p>Regarding which MBA programs SEAS grads have entered, see pages 5-8 of the 5- and 10-year alumni surveys on the right side of the page:</p>
<p>Career</a> Services, University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>Quite a few SEAS grads ended up in top MBA programs.</p>
<p>Thank you 45 Percenter! That was very helpful; interesting to see where all of the hard work will eventually take you if you have the right work ethic and mindset. Question for everyone on this thread, does anyone know the average GPA (4.0 Scale) of a freshman applicant for Chemical/Biomolecular Engineering? Also, for the Jerome Fisher Program in M&T; does anyone have information regarding the program’s applicants’ gpa? I know much more is factored into the application process than the numbers, but if anything it’s a baseline. Thanks!</p>
<p>In regards to M&T applicants average GPA, I’d bet it would be >3.9 because of the extreme self-selection in who applies.</p>
<p>I’m currently in Penn Engineering…I just finished my freshman year and I’m really struggling. I currently have a 2.7 GPA. I took a summer class hoping that if I worked REALLY hard in it and really focused, I might be able to turn it around. I wound up with a B-…which basically just confirms my GPA. I’m really worried that if I continue with engineering and can’t manage to pull my grades up, I will end up becoming unemployable. Can anyone give me some insight into what my position is and what I should do? I am seriously considering transferring to the college. Is this an option I should go with?</p>
<p>It’s not about working hard, it’s about working smart and effectively. You should take some time to seriously evaluate your study skills and consider what you can do to make them better. Try to figure out the balance you need to succeed. Also, make sure you don’t overload yourself. As a science major this is what has worked for me. I constantly need to readjust the way I do things to make sure I am successful. For me, doing lots of practice problems before exams is critical, so I feel more confident. When I look over my notes, I try to find key concepts and then relate them to homework or practice problems. This really helps.</p>
<p>Poeme: I’ve thought about my last semester and I think you’re right. I was not studying effectively. For the classes I took first semester I had a 3.02 and for the classes I took second semester I had a 2.3. My second semester was a huge drop - I frankly think I just burned out and lost my time mangagment skills. I am willing to work on my study skills and improve my GPA but I’m worried that more advanced classes in engineering will be harder and make it more difficult for me to make a comeback. I’m also seriously thinking about law school and so it’s really necessary that I be able to improve my GPA. Does engineering typically get harder or easier after the first year? Also, I’m thinking of changing my major from Bioengineering to Systems, Mechanical, or Electrical. Do you know what kind of work and what kind of average GPAs these majors have at Penn?</p>
<p>I doubt engineering GPA is lower than Wharton’s. I did a dual degree and found the engineering classes much easier because the grades weren’t curved. If you’re not doing well in engineering, it’s just because you’re not trying hard enough.</p>
<p>^ You could say that for any school. Engineering courses (especially introductory) have harsh curves, like Wharton, but are different in their use. In regards to the introductory courses, classes like Chem 101 and Phys 151 (ENM) have these harsh curves. Grading is split up, similar between both schools, as 30% A’s, 30% B’s, 30% C’s and lower, and the 10% depends on how the class does together (i.e. if a class does very well collectively, there could be up to 40% A’s given out.) However, a lot of these A’s given out are people who have already gotten their 5’s on APs, or took this sometime previously before their class so that they can get an “easy” A. This leaves a remarkably lower chance for kids who haven’t taken these courses to receive these A’s. </p>
<p>In my perspective of Wharton, a lot of people in this school are relatively near the same level. One of their requirements, like OPIM 101, is easy overall and just try to trick you with their wording. I can assume people are also relatively near the same knowledge of this specific course. The thing that gets the students in this class is the curve, because since everyone does well, it negatively curves us down to a lower grade. Classes are easier in Wharton, compared to Engineering, where people really have to worry about the negative curves since everyone does well.</p>
<p>In engineering, i haven’t heard of a science class that is regarded as easy either. Professors make these test difficult, where i’ve seen the average for a test being around 55/100 uncurved, which means that they have to curve up to a C+ usually. Since there are already people who have prior knowledge to a certain course, the bell curve will definitely be unfavorable to a good amount of students. When you throw in upper level courses, they are hard for everyone; however, as an engineering student, if you don’t fulfill a lot of prerequistes, you will have to take 5 classes each semester, since most engineering majors lie around 40 CU’s for a degree. Tack that on with these hard upperlevel classes, and many classes that either take up many hours in classes or out of class, you can see that engineering will definitely take up a lot more time. People may end up doing less than they wanted to in upperlevel classes, because it just may get so time consuming or hard to comprehend. Wharton people definitely do not want C’s, and generally don’t get C’s because of the easier curriculum. Engineering is just a big commitment, that will have its hard moments at some point of time for these engineering student, and are more accepting for lower grades. In society, engineering is definitely known as a challenge for everyone who decides to take on this rigorous commitment.</p>
<p>“However, a lot of these A’s given out are people who have already gotten their 5’s on APs,”</p>
<p>Is it a good idea to go through the materials once more and gain deeper understanding or go to the next course directly?</p>
<p>That is up to you. You could go do these intro classes and strive for those A’s; people may look down on you, but thats what people generally think when regarding the intro class curves. In my opinion, it would be better to skip these intro classes, so that you could take less classes, go into higher level courses, and just have a relatively easier schedule than other engineers. Of course jumping into higher level courses will seem very intimidating at first, but if you put in the effort to review your old courses, it’ll pay off. Also, intro classes are horrible for the most part because of the curves.</p>