<p>Is Penn better than Cornell? Just wondering…I don’t have a specific major yet.</p>
<p>On average, yes. Very much so.</p>
<p>In everything but engineering adn agriculture! basically yes! penn is the best ivy!!</p>
<p>so if im doing engineering, i should go to cornell then?</p>
<p>what about premed?</p>
<p>If you're doing engineering, don't do Ivies...unless you want to combine the engineering with some business/liberal arts skills, in which case go to Penn.</p>
<p>But yeah, Penn owns. I can personally vouch for ownage in my departments, but everything (save engineering) should be similarly better. Go Penn!</p>
<p>I diagree with many people here.
Though i have my deepest respects for Wharton, which I beleive is worth its weight in gold, I beleive that the rest of your departments are not as good as you make them out to be.</p>
<p>RealityCheck, If you are considering a career in Engineering or Sciences, go for Cornell without hesitation.
If you want to do business or humanities, choose UPenn.</p>
<p>Unless of course you want Bioengineering...so hot right now</p>
<p>Surely you cannot be surprised that Penn people would consider their departments to be better...</p>
<p>Additionally, Wharton is a resource for all undergrads at Penn to take business-related classes. Nurses, engineers, and even liberal arts kids like myself can and will enroll in a few Wharton classes in fields that interest us. Me, I take negotiations and marketing. Other people, perhaps finance, or OPIM, or real estate...the choice is yours and the opportunity is there (at penn)</p>
<p>Penn is great, but not for science.</p>
<p>What makes the Ivy League so special are their business connections. Penn is one of the best in getting its students into business, including students who are not in Wharton. The fact of the matter is, at the undergraduate level, department rankings for science aren't that important because high-paying jobs in science for Bacholors degrees are not in abundance. To be a scientist, you'd have to move on to science graduate school, for which there is no reason to say that Penn is worse than cornell in getting students in. Penn's science departments are all in the top 20. Biology and Biochem are around top 10.</p>
<p>For Engineering, Cornell probably has more recruiters for engineering Firms. But Penn has more buisness firms recruiting at SEAS. So that's the difference. If you're 100% sure you want to do engineering after graduation, Cornell's probably better. On the other hand, Penn has good flexibility in its program. Few people are totally sure they want to be engineers.</p>
<p>Of course, if you're interested in Bioengineering, Penn has a much stronger reputation in that area.</p>
<p>Aurelius, I was accepted into Penn Bioengineering and Cornell Bioengineering. I LOVE Penn but I know that its engineering program as a whole is worse than Cornell's. Do you have any links or references about Penn bioengineering being better than Cornell's? It would be a relief to me and my parents.</p>
<p>Bioengineering has a sweet new home.</p>
<p>Penn is by all means excellent in Bioengineering (ranked 7th). Cornell's program, on the other hand, is very much in its infancy and hasn't made it into USNEW's ranking yet. Penn's SEAS BE program is also growing rapidly at the moment. A new building for Bioengineering, "Skirkanich Hall" is being built and your class will the first to use it. (We'll also have a new building for nanotechnology in a few years, which is good if you like biomaterials or materials science).</p>
<p>Part of the reason BE is strong at Penn is because of Penn's Med School, which is the oldest in the nation. The Med school is also opening new buildings in the future, including the "Center for Advanced Medicine."</p>
<p>US News BME/Bioengineering Rankings:</p>
<p>I think Penn's 6th for graduate rankings but not sure.</p>
<p>Thanks Aurelius!</p>
<p>I totally agree with Aurelius...If you are not sure that you defintiely want to be an engineer Penn might be a better choice. That's how it is for me. I'm engineering now, but in fact I'm pretty sure I won't end up an engineer and Penn allows so much felexibility, and business recruits at SEAS are a verry good point. Plus at Penn you can do duals which is a very strong tool. I wanna do one with wharton.</p>
<p>If you want to do any courses in business, the go to UPenn because Wharton degree is very respected indeed.
But an engineering degree from Cornell's highly respected due to its sheer rigour and competitiveness.
And if you want Bio, Cornell is very good at it...why recently a team from Cornell found a cure for Alzheimer's.
It all comes down to this: Science vs Business.
While for the former Cornell's better, the latter is UPenn's forte...so choose wisely. Maybe visit both places...and also take the atmosphere there into account.</p>
<p>Aurelius,
Im 99% certain that I want to go into business and get an MBA after pursuing a undergraduate program in engineering. So according to you, should I pick UPenn over Cornell, even though Cornell's undergraduate engineering program is better? I'm deciding where to ED next year.
Thanks</p>
<p>also do you want to be in a city or not. cornell will be a quieter atmosphere.</p>
<p>If you want to do business in the long term, go with Penn. Penn SEAS has a very strong awareness of business, which is good for getting you the connections and the buisness character. I believe, althought not entirely sure, that there are as many if not more Business firms recruiting Penn engineers as there are engineering companies. 60% of SEAS graduates who chose to go into the work force work for financial or consulting firms.</p>
<p>If you want to get an MBA, graduate schools like Wharton slightly favor enrolling their own undergrads.</p>
<p>Cornell is a good school too and there are many different paths to get into the "Business World," but Penn is one of the most direct.</p>
<p>Penn > Cornell in everyway imagenable except for Hotel Management lol</p>
<p>on the contrary aurelius ive heard that graduate schools hold no preference for their undergrads</p>