Penn vs. Cornell

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get a life

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<p>You're one to talk... I'm sure you have no life. What business do you have coming to the Cornell forum?</p>

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<p>Yay! I love hypocrisy!</p>

<p>Seniors08...you come here and bash...when you're proved wrong or the conversation stops going your way, you wanna tell us to get a life.</p>

<p>Hahah kay you guys win. Cookies for you! Later!</p>

<p>leave him alone. Now that he FINALLY realizes he lost the fight, he wants to "pretend" that he was just playing around the whole time</p>

<p>I think the whole Harvard thing originated with my post. When I commented on the tiers of Ivy League schools, I was ranking them solely on prestige. I don't think there's any doubt that Harvard is by far the most prestige school in the world. That's all I'm saying. Now is prestige and academic experience or fit identical or even close to the same? It definitely depends on the individual program and individual person.</p>

<p>So we can all debate Harvard actually being a better educational experience (I'd say no because I imagine all Ivies offer very comparable ones). But what we can't debate is that Harvard is way more prestigious than even Princeton and Yale.</p>

<p>Yea I agree that Harvard is more prestigious than Cornell.</p>

<p>But I did enjoy completely owning that tool from Penn, 08seniors 08</p>

<p>08seniors08 probably wanted to come to Cornell but got rejected. :D</p>

<p>I love the children on the internet that hide behind a computer screen in anonymity and spew the bullsh.it that they do. Quite ridiculous, really.</p>

<p>Sorry, had to jump in here, seeing all the Philly-bashing. First of all, DO NOT call the city "Killadelphia," (that's just rude) and especially don't use that as a reason to not go to Penn. When you're on Penn's campus, you're completely fine. Trust me, I've walked around at 3am and it's safe. Obviously, the same rules for any city apply, like don't wander off the campus late at night by yourself (which I would tell someone at Columbia or Harvard or Yale or anywhere). Using Philly's reputation as a negative for Penn is just ridiculous because you WILL be safe.</p>

<p>Also, what's up with people trashing Philly in general? We have a vibrant nightlife, incredible restaurants, more history than perhaps any city in the country (whoever said we're trying to be Boston...how sadly misguided you are! The two are completely different), crazy and fun sports, and enough amazing things to do to keep everyone entertained. As someone who's spent significant amounts of time in Philly, NYC, and Boston, I'll take Philly anyday. It has everything a city like NYC offers, but it's not touristy and overwhelming like NYC is. I don't attend Penn or Cornell (obviously, based on my username) but I know plenty of people who go to both, and the Penn kids have it in terms of location and environment, hands down. Just stop the Philly bashing; the city is a positive asset to Penn's overall package.</p>

<p>I just spent the summer in Philly, and I now live in NYC. Here's some of my observations. </p>

<p>"When you're on Penn's campus, you're completely fine"
But the moment you step off, it's a different game. There was a shooting at the McDonalds on Walnut street a few weeks ago, a stone throw's away from the Penn campus. And might I add, it was in the middle of the day. Not cool. </p>

<p>"the same rules for any city apply, like don't wander off the campus late at night by yourself (which I would tell someone at Columbia or Harvard or Yale or anywhere)."
Except NYC is much safer at night. I wander out all the time, at Penn I made sure I was in at 11 PM, it gets pretty sketchy in the West Philly area at night. </p>

<p>"It has everything a city like NYC offers, but it's not touristy and overwhelming like NYC is"
I'd say NYC has everything Philly has, but also much much more. The one thing I'd give Philly is an abundance of easily accesible top-notch food places. It's tough to go wrong with anything at the Reading terminal market.</p>

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I wander out all the time, at Penn I made sure I was in at 11 PM, it gets pretty sketchy in the West Philly area at night.

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On campus, it really isn't that sketchy. If it was you wouldn't see a bunch of people going to and from the library, to and from Wawa, to and from parties, etc. all after 11 every night. If you start venturing way off campus towards the bad areas (if you walk east, you get towards Center City Philly, if you walk west you walk into the heart of West Philly) it's another story, but the same can be said about Columbia too (if you start venturing towards the heart of Harlem vs midtown). </p>

<p>If you read the DP article about the shooting, <a href="http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/06/26/News/Online.Update.Shot.Fired.Inside.Mcdonalds.At.40th.And.Walnut.Streets-3386340.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/2008/06/26/News/Online.Update.Shot.Fired.Inside.Mcdonalds.At.40th.And.Walnut.Streets-3386340.shtml&lt;/a> you see that it was just a case of a dumb person pulling out a gun for no reason and being arrested immediately. From recent events at other universities, you should know there is nothing really protecting you from an unforeseeable tragedy by being at Cornell, and there is no reason why you shouldn't be perfectly safe at Penn like the majority of the 10,000 undergrads are.</p>

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<p>Are you seriously telling them to get a life? You came here and tried to provoke them for your own enjoyment.</p>

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<p>I pretty much agree. Philly is an awesome city. I don't understand the Philly bashing. It probably comes from people who visited Penn and only saw West Philadelphia.</p>

<p>While I agree that Philadelphia is a severely underrated city in the same way that Boston is a severely overrated city, I do feel that an urban locale may not be the best option for undergraduate students. </p>

<p>A small city or rural location allows more distance and space from the real world to focus on one's studies and on forging relationships with others on campus. The city can bring in too many expensive diversions.</p>

<p>cayuga: you fail to state that those expensive diversions are still affordable to the wealthier cornellians...</p>

<p>lower/middle class students who might be used to a more urban locale become depressed and homesick b/c they can not afford to escape ithaca's dreariness...</p>

<p>There is nothing dreary about Ithaca as far as I am concerned. </p>

<p>But I wouldn't recommend Cornell to anybody who has reservations about being in a somewhat remote locale. Cornell and Ithaca would only be bettered if the five percent of campus who constantly complain about Ithaca decided never to enroll at Cornell in the first place.</p>

<p>Cayuga...while you do make a good point...it is natural for many students (whether they admit it or not) to become homesick...</p>

<p>staying at cornell for thanksgiving is a bummer...one has to deal with it...</p>

<p>the pluses outweigh the negatives...i love ithaca and cornellians...its just tough not being able to afford to get out...</p>

<p>"staying at cornell for thanksgiving is a bummer"</p>

<p>What do you mean? We don't go home for Thanksgiving?</p>

<p>You can go home for Thanksgiving. Students who cannot afford to go home or live too far away stick around campus.</p>

<p>Well...is it a short break or something? The residence halls are open?</p>

<p>You get Wednesday afternoon-Sunday for vacation. The dorms are open...but you do need to inform your RA if you're staying.</p>