Pharmacy and Medicine

<p>I am a junior in high school and my GPA currently is a 3.6 and I am waiting on my SAT scores.
I have always wanted to be a pharmacist for the past 4-5 years. However, pharmacy is 6 years and medicine is 8 years, which makes me sometimes think that 2 more years of studying can make me a doctor. However, is medicine harder then pharmacy? About how much time/work do you have to give in for both the fields?
I am going to visit colleges in April so I have started making my list (for pharmacy) but I don’t know if I should do pharmacy or medicine?
I am good in math (A’s) and in chemistry I have high B’s and low A’s.</p>

<p>I live in NJ.
My list for Pharmacy Schools is: Rutgers, USP, Mass. College of Pharmacy, Northeastern, SUNY Buffalo, St. John’s, and Albany.</p>

<p>Rutgers is my first choice and then USP.
After that I do not know which one to pick. Is Mass. of Pharmacy, SUNY, or Northeastern better?</p>

<p>Thank you sooo much for the help! =)</p>

<p>I can speak on the medicine/pharmacy split. </p>

<p>1st, pharmacy can be only 6 years, but for many people it's 8. Unlike medical school in which a bachelor's degree is basically required, pharmacy schools will let you apply after 2 years of undergraduate work assuming you've taken the correct courses (this is the 2+4 model, in contrast to the 0-6 model in which you're admitted directly out of HS). There are certainly advantages and disadvantages to the 0-6 and 2+4 programs, and I'd certainly have you look past the time issue. Many people doing the 2+4 model will actually go to college for 3, 4 or even 5 years, and many will get their bachelors degree. My former roommate and fraternity brother went this route. He loved undergrad and didn't see a need to rush through it. Not everyone sees it that way, but I know that he has zero regrets about going this route (in part b/c he didn't know if he wanted to be a pharmacist until late in his sophomore year). </p>

<p>Now as far as the MD/PharmD question, realize that becoming a physician requires you to complete a residency program after you've graduated, in order to become knowledgeable in your chosen field of medicine. This is another 3-7 years (depending on your choice) in which you're working 80 hours a week and making between 45k to 50k. There are residency programs in pharmacy, but they're optional, and if you're okay with being the pharmacist at Walgreen's or CVS, then you don't have to go through that process. Pharmacy residency programs are 1 or 2 years, with similar pay scales to medical residents. </p>

<p>Now as far as the knowledge base required for each. The analogy I like to use is that doctors are sort of like the decathletes of the medical field - they have to be pretty decent (have a basic understanding at a minimum) at most everything that professionals around them do, whether it be pharmacists, nurses, physical therapists, radiology techs, or lab technicians. But these specialists are like the single event runners on a track team - they're VERY good at what they do. Pharmacists, because their actually doctors of pharmacy, are certainly at a higher level than a microbiology lab tech, and have to have a wider knowledge base, but they have to have fantastic knowledge of medications.</p>

<p>As a medical student, I can attest that we as doctors have to know our drugs, when to use them, what their side effects are, how to manage dosing and that sort of thing, but when we're stuck - we turn to the PharmD's. They have a much deeper understanding of the chemistry, why certain drugs interact with each other and so on. On the other hand, a pharmacist will know a good amount about a lot of different medical conditions, but they're not going to be able to pick up the uncommon presentation of an uncommon illness if you put the patient in front of them, even though they'll know how to treat it. Likewise, they're not going to be as comfortable in making decisions like which lab test to order, and why test A is a good choice in one situation but not in a different one... </p>

<p>I hope that made sense. I was trying to keep it very general and avoid specifics that would be over your head.</p>

<p>Since you're undecided, I personally think that it would be a good idea for you to just go through a regular undergraduate experience, getting experiences in both fields and seeing which you prefer. Also seeing how you perform in your college coursework would be powerful in making sure that either field is right for you.</p>

<p>Increasingly, there is a shift in pharmacy admissions in terms of favoring the bachelors degree. I personally don't agree with the philosophy of a 0-6 program, but that's just me. However, you should be wary that there is a greater discrepancy between curricula of different pharmacy schools compared to medical schools. There are some pharmacy schools that don't hide their focus as a CVS mill, while others push their students into clinical pharmacy. To elaborate about what BigRedMed said, pharmacy residencies and specializations are available after the PharmD are supplemental qualifications, though necessary in various fields of pharmacy. </p>

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<p>This website will help you get a better idea as to what one can do with a PharmD degree.</p>

<p>Would you mind explaining what "pharmacy residencies" mean? Thanks!</p>

<p>I wouldn't say that pharmacy is easier, but it's usually less competitive to break into. Getting accepted into med school is extremely hard to do. </p>

<p>Pharmacy is also less schooling and residency. You could probably save about 4 to 6 years of training by going the pharmacy route.</p>

<p>So residency in the medical field refers to post-graduate education, essentially on-the-job training. It occurs after one has earned their degree - in this case either their PharmD or their MD. And even though it's an educational situation, you do get paid.</p>

<p>Basically medical school and pharmacy school teach you a broad base, exposing you to many different parts of their fields (ie 3rd year medical students have clerkships in Surgery, Internal Medicine, OB/GYN, Pediatrics, and Psychiatry), and they teach you the basic functions of being a professional in that area - you learn how to write notes, how to take a history, perform a physical exam (if a medical student) and so on.</p>

<p>But the actual point at which you learn to be _____________ occurs in residency. I can use myself for an example. I'm a 3rd year, currently on inpatient medicine at the VA hospital. But I'm pretty sure that I want to be a pediatric sub-specialist when I'm done (either in cardiology or pulmonology). So once I graduate with my MD in May 2009, I will need to enter a pediatrics residency so that I learn all there is to know about sick kids. After 3 years, I would be eligible to become board certified in pediatrics, and could enter the next phase of my education by entering either a peds pulm or peds cardio fellowship, where my training would be focused just on that organ system, all the things that can go wrong and how to fix them. </p>

<p>A Pharm residency is similar, though shorter. The first year looks to be focused on increasing knowledge base in a general sense, making you a better pharmacist overall. The second year is aimed at a clinical area such as cardiology or ICU medicine. This allows the pharmacist to be a very specific expert about one area, and be a unique resource for physicians working in that area.</p>

<p>Maybe it would be worthwhile to spend some time in college and develop an understanding of your interests. You would be much much better off pursuing a career you love, that matches your actual interests, rather than worrying about which is harder or which takes more years.</p>