Philosophy (Mills,Plato)

<p>Anybody a big philosopher or enjoy mills/plato's readings.</p>

<p>I have to read plato republic and John stuart mill's utilitarianism in deep understanding and i figure although knocking out AP lang/Literature i may have troubles.
anybody read them and willing to answer some questions i may have during my reading so i will have a better understanding for it?</p>

<p>Reply back and LMK if your interested or would like to talk about ethics, morals or anything in philosophy.</p>

<p>I don't know if you can really lump mills/plato together like that. it seems kind of arbitrary. Like...</p>

<p>Yo, anyone read some Kant/Fouceault recently?</p>

<p>Reading your post it makes sense qua school reading, but the connection is a deceiving one.</p>

<p>Just saying :P</p>

<p>Well haha.
Were reading mills first then plato haha sry for that.</p>

<p>Any others?</p>

<p>I like philosophy although I mainly prefer when it has a connection to history, such as Rosseau, Locke and Hobbes. I also, like aristotle, plato and socrates. I haven't read Kant in awhile.</p>

<p>Kant is a badass. Screw political philosophy. The only time a person is being moral is when they do what they think is right but what they don't want to do!</p>

<p>I have to write a SHORT 1 page paper and I am not completely understanding J.S. Mills and was wondering if you could give me some ideas, quotes or motive to help me get this paper out of the way.</p>

<p>In Chapter Two, Mill considers an objection to the effect that utilitarianism must be wrong because it sets a moral standard that "is too high for humanity". That is, this criticism says that utilitarianism is too demanding of us because it demands that we always set out to maximize the general wellbeing of society (overall social utility). Summarize Mill's response to this objection. To support your summary, quote Mill at least once to illustrate the accuracy of your summary.</p>

<p>I'm a Classics (Greek and Latin) major, which involves the study of a LOT of ancient philosophy. I'm big on Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, as well as early Christian philosophers like St. Justin Martyr and St. Augustine. </p>

<p>My absolute favorite philosopher, however, is "The Angelic Doctor": St. Thomas Aquinas. The old friar's genius was truly Heaven-sent. A close runner-up is the great Jewish philosopher, Maimonides. </p>

<p>As for more modern, and contemporary, philosophers, I'm interested in Descartes, Kant, Hegel, Henri Bergson, G.E.M. Anscombe, Peter Geach, Jacques Maritain, Peter Kreeft, Ayn Rand, F.C. Copleston, Roger Scruton, Elmar J. Kremer, Michael Oakeshott, and John Kekes, to name a few.</p>

<p>Augustine ****ed up Catholicisms view on sex. I mean he did some good, but Aquinas is the real badass vis-a-vis Catholic theology.</p>

<p>Descartes is so passe. Kant is unavoidable but really postmodernism just took a giant crap on all the rationalists and so on.</p>

<p>Also, Ayn Rand disgusts me.</p>

<p>Ah, all Augustine did was explain the Catholic faith more fully. He didn't change the Church's ideas on sexual morality; like all great Catholic theologians, he merely deepened the Church's understanding of it. Of course, you're talking to a devout Catholic, so I would say that... ;)</p>

<p>I agree regarding Aquinas, though. "Badass" is actually a pretty good word to describe him (in the best way possible, of course). A mind like that only comes around every few hundred years. The only other Catholic philosopher and theologian that I think could touch his genius was Bernard Lonergan, the 20th century Canadian Jesuit. Not a lot of people have heard of him, it seems, but I believe that will change as the years go by.</p>

<p>As for Ayn Rand, much of her thought turns me off as well. Still, I find her very interesting.</p>

<p>I hate Ayn Rand as well.</p>

<p>Ayn Rand is my favorite author. </p>

<p>(no hating please).</p>

<p>Ayn Rand is one of the few writers who is not only a great fiction writer, but a great essayist as well.</p>

<p>Here is Atlas Shrugged:</p>

<p>20 page conversation
20 pages of the same conversation but with same ideas being regurgitated
20 pages of why math and science and steel are incredible</p>

<p>Repeat for a thousand pages</p>