What does “Physical presence in California solely for educational purposes” mean exactly ?
I have been in CA since Jan 2016 and attend Community College with my wife (she has lived in CA for more than 5 years)
I have a car registered in CA, California Driver License, CA bank account, CA apartment rent agreement, utilities bill, pay stubs, and will jointly fill out CA tax report with my wife.
In my case, do I live in California solely for educational purposes?
Your other threads indicate that you are actively looking for a way to get instate tuition and have the ~$50k/year your parents give you overlooked so you can get federal and state grants. Fill out the paperwork accurately. The college can answer your residency question. Some colleges won’t change residency status once you start. California is one of the toughest states to get resident rates in because everyone wants to go there so they may not change your status, but you can ask.
I wish you would get your facts straight before you make a post!
First you said you had $200,000 in savings. Now it's $20,000.
Then you said your parents gave you a $4000 gift each month. No mention of a loan document between you and them. Suddenly...this has become a loan.
You claim you are not in CA for educational purposes. But really, you enrolled in college as an OOS student at a CA CC...and now you hope to be instate for a UC.
The only ones who can answer your questions are the UC folks.
But you came here to California to attend school. That IS for educational purposes!
Your other posts show how much you are trying to cheat California out of paying OOS funds. If you come to California and wait to go to school for 2 years, but work, ONLY, then the state MAY grant residency. But, you started school immediately. That proof is on your transcript. You can’t erase or change that.
You came to our country and immediately started school, that is considered a non-resident by UC standards. Then you immediately married someone to claim being self-supporting and using FAFSA funds while having $200k in savings. (Your parents give you a $4000 a month allowance, that you are now calling a “loan”.)
Everyone who has read and documented on your posts understands that you are trying to cheat our system, which will come back to bite you big time. Now you are saying that these posts are hypothetical??? Come on!
Forget about ever finding a job in the US, especially in you are in engineering or CS; if you ever receive a diploma, you won’t be credible and will never receive a US clearance. These guys are thorough in background checks.
I do not know what you misunderstand and what I make you misunderstanding. If I did fraud thing in real life, I will be purged of my sin. Can you guarantee that I immediately married someone “to claim being self-supporting” and “using FAFSA funds” while having “$200k in savings”?
I said NO, NO, NO and you are just accepting everything that I posted on the website as totally fact even after I apologize that some that I said is hypothetical. You have option to report this everything to UC and CC, and even IRS and Immigration.
I did not get married for “being self-supporting”, and I did not get ANY FAFSA REWARD, and even no 200K in my account.
If you don’t want people to be confused, you need to post one version of whatever’s actually going on in your life. We have a saying here – “Garbage in, garbage out” – which means that the advice you get is only going to be as good as the information you you post. Your story is bouncing around like a ping pong ball. You’ve stated that you arrived in CA in Jan. 2016, got married that same month to a woman who’s been a resident of CA for 5 years, that you and your wife have an income of ~$10k between you, your parents “gift” you $4k/month, you have $200k in savings, and you want to know how to get a federal Pell grant (which isn’t intended for couples who have a $60k income and $200k sitting in a bank account).
Then you asked if the money from your parents would be counted as income if you called it a loan. When someone said no, you asked if you’d have to give any grants back if your parents forgave the loan after you graduate. The $200k savings was a typo, you said; you really only have $20k in your savings. Then the situation was a “hypothetical.” Now it’s all a misunderstanding.
Whatever papers you fill out for the college need to be filled out accurately. If you don’t care whether or not you lose your degree, go to jail, or get deported, that’s up to you. But you may want to show a little more concern for your wife.
I accurately submitted all documents following my “real” situation, there are no fraud. I agree that I gave you guys “Garbage”, I apologized about that and making mistake. So I just wanted to stop the thread.
I bet you want the thread to stop. You’ve been busted.
Being “purged of sin” is one thing, people on here can’t believe your story because it’s too inconsistent.
Unfortunately, California public universities can’t include religious tome’s.
We don’t need proof on this website, of your disingenuous activities; the State of California’s universities will expect proof, as will immigration.
Post 7- not as a “resident” but now on what seems to be a two year spousal Green Card. This makes you a “conditional permanent resident” to the federal govt, not a resident in the usual sense.
“If I did fraud thing in real life, I will be purged of my sin.” That’s at death. Meantime you have to deal with federal and civil laws and the policies of UC.
UC has not granted you residency. You have not yet even applied to UC and per them, “You submit this form after committing to a campus by filing your Statement of Intent to Register (SIR).”
Too much here is “speculative.” That was the choice you made in what you originally (mis)wrote and maintained through many following posts. Sure, you’re trying to correct it now, but we have a great English expression: closing the barn door after the cows have wandered out. It means it’s too late to now say you’re “clarifying” or giving the “true” version. Of course, many now suspect your motives.
On a public forum, your words represent you.
Yes, attending college now, as a non-resident, paying OOS tuition, can seem that you came for the purpose of education. You may also work, but that’s not the same as people who come, only work for two years, then start school. I’m not going back to find that in the policy.
I’m afraid you’re going to need to ponder the true version, your true motives, and untangle this yourself, by going section by section through the info UCOP and the individual colleges publish.
Actually…you came here as an international student…which means you must have had a student visa to study here.
Those are given specifically for students who come here to be STUDENTS…in your case, a college student. How would you now demonstrate that you didn’t come here for the purpose of attending college…since that is exactly what you did?
@lookingforward First of all, thank you your advice. I am not a immigration lawyer, so I can tell nothing about first paragraph. It is clear that I didn’t submit FAFSA inaccurately for get any grant (on this forum, I agree that It seems to try to get some grant through fraud) and there are no fraud. Yes, UC has not granted any in-state and my residency. Thanks again.