Pitt vs. Maryland

<p>Hi, as an alumni of both the University of Pittsburgh and the UMD, I feel I can give some good insight into my impressions of the schools. I graudated with a BS in Engineering from Pitt in '05 and MS from UMD in '07 in Engineering. </p>

<p>I loved Pitt when I went there and upon arrival at UMD I was a bit disappointed by campus. I definitely give Pitt and South Oakland the advantage as far as campuses are concerned. I thought Pitt had a better vibe, more was happening, much more to do in the neighborhood etc., </p>

<p>As an engineering major, unfortately I don't have the best insight into business programs but I have gotten the distinct impression that Maryland has a significantly better business program. As a business major, your degree only takes you so far unless it is Ivy league, so you need to get some good experience and there are many more opprotunities in the DC area than in Pittsburgh by far. The Maryland Alumni network is also stronger than Pitt's, very important in business, and I get the feeling that Maryland's business program is much more well run and developed than Pitt's. Maryland also has a very strong Economics program that ties into the business program (notable alums, professors, including nobel prize winner in economics recently). </p>

<p>Both schools don't have the name recognition to carry you on their own, but each are very well respected in their seperate locales. The difference is that there are literally 10x the job opportunities in the DC metro area than in Pittsburgh for business (and engineering, which is why I came here for grad school). And jobs are the real reasons that you're going to school. </p>

<p>I would much rather go to Pitt than Maryland, but if I am objective I have no doubt Maryland bschool is better.</p>

<p>Thanks for your incorporated objective and subjective remarks pittalum. </p>

<p>Pitt's campus is what draws me to it. I feel a certain warmth about Pittsburgh for some reason. Yet, like you said, Maryland's business school is better and its distance to D.C. is a big plus. And I don't really have any thing against Maryland's campus, it's just that I kind of feel warmer to Pitt's.</p>

<p>If Pitt's business program was as good as Maryland, I would go there.</p>

<p>this decision is going to kill me...</p>

<p>Why don't you try to do some searching on your own with the business school at Pitt. Maybe you can find someone in career services who can share facts about the placement of business grads etc.</p>

<p>UniverCity, were you admitted into the business schools at both Pitt and UMD? Or is it a case where you take regular courses freshman year and hope to get in as a soph?</p>

<p>I was admitted to the business schools at both colleges.</p>

<p>Well, that's one less thing to worry about! How about money? Will both schools cost the same for you?</p>

<p>I am not exactly sure yet. Lets assume they are the same.</p>

<p>Why don't you look at the websites and research both schools in depth (look at clubs, organizations, etc) and the course catalog and see which one offers a better picture to you?</p>

<p>md is very very large
pitt is large but a small college feel
the business school at pitt is small and that is reflected in the class sizes
a very large donation to the business school months ago is really going to boost pitt's business program-
i think you need to choose a university for the academics, quality of life, social options, activities, sports, and other choices that are important to you. forget about taking advantage of dc- it's not so close to md that you'll be frequenting dc regularly- pitt students enjoy an active social life on campus and throughout the city as well. pitt is a friendly campus with intelligent students</p>

<p>Some students at MD tell me they feel like a number due to the sheer size of the school. I think though, once you get settled and start exploring your major the small-size feel kicks in.</p>

<p>I have attended both schools (attended Pitt and transferred to UMD where I currently attend UMD), and from what people are saying, for the most part, is accurate. But let me give you some things that you may want to think about. And yes, I realized I posted this on the UMD thread, but I would rather do my fuller analysis on the Pitt thread so I won't end up getting slammed or harassed by "Terps" for voicing my opinion - I'll explain the reason for my apprehensions later. </p>

<p>UMD's Business school is higher ranked than Pitt's, but it's very competitive to get into if you aren't accepted in initially as a freshmen. The best chances to get admitted in after freshmen year is to get at least a 3.5 GPA and join some business-related clubs and organizations. If you can do that or better, you should have a decent chance.</p>

<p>UMD's other academic programs such as engineering, criminal justice, and government and politics fields are for the most part great, while Pitt would be a better fit for Pre-Med students. </p>

<p>As for the aesthetics, Maryland would look nicer in the eyes of most, especially compared to Pitt's more grungy environment and constant dreary weather. However, walking to and form classes in Pitt is much less of a hassle while UMD is more sprawled out between classes, dorms (esp. freshmen ones), and other places of interest. Although there are buses that run within the campus, it's only reliable during certain times of the day. </p>

<p>Sports wise, UMD has a LOT of pride, compared to Pitt. You'll see at least a third of students wear UMD gear or some sort. And UMD's teams are pretty good, except for the ones that receive the most broadcast, the football and men's college teams. But some take it too far, especially with how these individuals act towards fans of the other team (and in some cases, to each other).</p>

<p>As for the social scene, UMD really fails big time compared to Pitt, which is probably the #1 reason why you should observe both schools for yourself before choosing. While UMD may be close to DC, it isn't some 10 minute trip (even if you have a car). As for the activities on campus, even though they say they have it, you will have to look hard for it after the first few weeks of school. And if you're not a partier, drinker, pothead, or druggie (and I don't mean just casual, but a hardcore one), you won't like this school at all, especially on the weekends. And to add the icing on the cake, people aren't that welcoming to individuals who are even weekend partiers. In fact, many of the individuals you'll meet around here tend to clique into their own groups very fast. So unless you're coming here during as a freshmen, don't even consider coming here as a transfer student as they will treat you even worse than the incoming freshmen who don't think partying and sports are the epitome of college. Mean looks and arrogant vibes are very common here, despite how the weather is or if the teams are doing good. As for the "ethnic diversity" UMD raves about, it's a farce. We may have a higher amount of different multicultural students on this campus, but they stay to themselves. And if they do integrate and are liked, it usually involves whites/Asians, or almost any other combination that doesn't include any Latinos nor Blacks (unless they're athletes or they knew them from high school or earlier). So if you're an underrepresented minority, I'd really be careful about choosing UMD</p>

<p>As for Pitt's social scene, it's located in an urban setting, Oakland. It's not that far from downtown and buses are constantly running to and forward that and other places of interest (Shadyside, Squirrel Hill, Southside, etc). There might not be as much things to do in the city compared to Washington, but you'll find stuff if you're committed. As for the social scene within the school, Pitt isn't as big of a party school as UMD and the bars aren't the highlight of the weekends, although there are people who care for that type of stuff. However, there are people who value a good education and with time, you'll be able to find and befriend those individuals. Although if you live in a freshmen door (Particularly Litchfield Towers A and B), you're better off. As for the general attitude, it isn't the south where everyone will say "hi" to you, but you won't come across many rude or arrogant individuals neither, just people who have their own lives. And while the school is less diverse, it is a lot more integrated between social, personality, and racial groups. </p>

<p>There's my analysis. Take it or leave it. And as for my personal choice, I would definitely be at Pitt if the out-of-state finances weren't as high.</p>

<p>I think UMD had a good deal of diversity, actually. Pitt is 80% white, while Maryland is 56%. I've seen plenty of great clubs and groups at UMD. The business school is excellent and yes, competitive, but well worth it. Journalism is an amazing major for UMD as is engineering. The rest of the majors are okay. </p>

<p>I don't think Pitt is in a "grungy" area. College Park is grungy. It has a much higher crime rate too.</p>

<p>I have to agree with Fairfaxian the diversity thing. Diversity isn't just statistics, it's also how different groups comingle with each other. Though Pitt has a larger white population, it doesn't mean it's worse than UMD in the diversity department. </p>

<p>I've heard about a lot of different racial issues at UMD. Here is the most recent one: Noose</a> Found Hanging at University of Maryland - Nation & World</p>

<p>I heard about that. But it doesn't reflect the student body just as the Virginia Tech sniper doesn't reflect VTech students. I know plenty of minorities at UMD who love it. </p>

<p>Though I agree that UMD students can be very cliquey, especially since many of them were friends in high school and stay in their old groups.</p>