Placement exams vs AP credit

<p>I see incoming students are required to take placement exams for math and foreign language. Is this true even for students coming in with AP credit? What happens if the placement exam places you in a class for which you've already earned AP credit?</p>

<p>i’m curious about this too</p>

<p>Every student will have to take the placement exams at orientation. If it places you into a class you have earned AP credit for, you don’t have to take the class.</p>

<p>For a science student, you will need to take 3 semesters of foreign language. You can check if your AP can satisfy the requirements for all three semesters.</p>

<p>[Advanced</a> Placement Exams: Admission Standards: Future Freshmen: How to Apply: Office of Admissions: Indiana University Bloomington](<a href=“Freshman Applicants: How to Apply: Office of Admissions: Indiana University Bloomington”>Freshman Applicants: How to Apply: Office of Admissions: Indiana University Bloomington)</p>

<p>Your Math M119 and M211 can be satisfied by AP Calc A/B (4/5).</p>

<p>I would recommend freshmen think twice about using placement tests or AP to skip introductory courses at IU and start at a higher level, especially in languages and math. </p>

<p>My daughter’s 4 years of French in HS (all As) helped her to do well on the IU French placement exam, and based on her exam score, IU said she could skip the first semester of French 1. But she decided to start with the first semester of French at IU, hoping for at least one easy A her first semester. However, despite a lot of work, she ended up with a B+ in the intro class in the fall and this spring semester is barely holding onto a B. Similar story in math. </p>

<p>If you can completely skip a subject area due to placement tests or AP credit, fine, but think twice if you plan to take any higher level courses in that subject at IU. At a minimum, carefully check the syllabus of an intro course you plan on skipping and make sure you know everything in it well enough to take the next level. It is the rare HS that prepares you well for advanced courses at college.</p>

<p>MidwestMom17…I understand what you are saying but testing out of classes can save you a lot of money (especially if you are OOS) and lessen your course load. I am curios at IU if you receive AP credit for a course and then take the course do you still receive credit for that course. For example if you receive 3 credits for passing AP calculus test but you decide to take calculus do you get 3 credits for that course. I think it also depends on what HS you go to and the rigor of your classes.</p>

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<p>I agree with MM17 on this point. These are the cases you would want to plan ahead if you are a pre-med. You should review for the foreign language placement test before your orientation. DS1 tested out three semesters of French. If he gets three B’s, his GPA will be in jeopardy not to mention the schedule impact. He will pick up the Spanish in senior year. Same with M211 and M212 for biology or biochem majors. Most medical schools accept the AP credits.</p>

<p>Sort of off topic but I thought you had the choice of taking a foreign language or world history classes. Wouldn’t the history classes be easier and help maintain GPA?</p>

<p>@yankees3311, the IU requirements have me dizzy right now, but from what I can tell it depends on your major / school within IU. For GenEd requirements that everyone has to satisfy, you can either take foreign language:
“Students must successfully complete the study of a single GenEd-approved world language through the second semester of the second-year level of college-level course work. International students whose native language is not English may fulfill the foreign language requirement through demonstrated proficiency in their native languages, in accordance with the practice and policies of the College of Arts and Sciences.”
OR
you can take two semesters of World Cultures classes (I think that’s what you meant by world history classes)
OR
you can study abroad:
“To satisfy the International Experience option, students must complete an approved study abroad program or approved study abroad internship of at least six credit hours and at least six weeks abroad in duration.”</p>

<p>BUT if you are in the College of Arts and Sciences then you MUST “establish proficiency in a single foreign language through the second semester of the second year of college-level course work”. You can’t just satisfy the foreign language requirements with world cultures classes.</p>

<p>Looks like this is NOT a requirement for the Kelley School of Business.</p>

<p>Thanks for clearing that up</p>

<p>I am going to have to disagree with MidwestMom and ace550 on the concern with grades and placement exams. It may depend upon the language. DD placed into 300 level Spanish. She managed to get an A or A- in all of her later courses (3 or 4). I will say she was a Spanish minor though. DS placed into the same level for Spanish–so far same grades. </p>

<p>DS is now taking M212 because he took AP Calc. Since it’s been a couple of years since he took Calc, it took him some time to recall everything, but he’s on track now. </p>

<p>The one caveat I have to all of this is Finite Math. Despite A’s in HS Calc, etc. Finite threw DD initially. She worked for the A. DS took Finite in high school.</p>

<p>I would definitely think twice if you test into either honors chemistry or straight into organic chem–S117 (honors chem I) was a shock for many of my friends first semester, and the friend who tested straight into ochem I dropped and had to retake. She ended up on the same track as us normal students</p>