<p>k so i took the sat junior year and got 2140 (800 w, 740 cr, 600 m), then i retook it november after studying my butt off for the math and studying more for the cr but guess what? i got wayyy lower score: 2010 (750 w, same 740 cr, and...520 m). i know yale superscores so my november score will pretty much be ignored, but they still will see it, so could it affect my admission? or do they truly only consider the highest score?</p>
<p>and either way, i really felt like i improved on the cr and math this time but didn't. so im pretty much stuck with a 2140. my parents cant really afford to hire one of those sat tutors or anything, so...</p>
<p>so really, honestly, would they ever--under any circumstances--accept someone with a 600 in math? let's say, for hypothetical, that everything else about my profile is great and maybe they actually want to accept me cuz of all my film ec's or something. but they see i have a 600 in math. would they EVER accept me in spite of it? or is it just really really pointless for me to apply? i know people will say "you never know!" but honestly, there are some things you can know. like they wouldn't accept me with the 520 if that was my highest math score, we all know this. so how about 600? </p>
<p>thanks for reading and thanks in advance for any advice. :(</p>
<p>They do, but it’s very, very rare. I don’t have this year’s numbers, but according to last year’s US News website, the percentage of first-year students enrolled at Yale who had SAT Math subscores between 500 and 599 was only 2.0%. That’s fewer than 30 students. Chances are the students had a hook; they were recruited athletes, talented URMs, development cases, or the children of celebrities.</p>
<p>wc: Your application is done. Nothing you can do now but wait. Breathe in, breathe out.</p>
<p>If you love yale, there is no reason not to apply. Shooting for the stars with a few applications is fine. Just be realistic about the possibilities. Above all, have a balanced college list that includes several matches as well as one or two safeties you’d be reasonably happy to attend. And give all your applications the same degree of attention.</p>
<p>yeah i just have a lot of reaches i think. and if i really have no shot at yale, i feel like i’m just wasting my time when i COULD apply to reaches that are at least…possible. </p>
<p>i dunno. i might give yale a shot anyway, but it seems impossible for me to get in. </p>
<p>and yeah, i have 1 true safety (guaranteed admission to uc davis) that i would love to attend, and people have said that uc berkeley and ucla are pretty much safeties for me as well, so that’s good. but i’m trying to narrow it down to the reaches that i actually have SOME shot at, you know?</p>
<p>“would they ever–under any circumstances–accept someone with a 600 in math?”</p>
<p>Absolutely – if the student was a disadvantaged first-generation college applicant who is excelling at a weak high school (whether rural or inner-city). Context means a lot.</p>
<p>hi whitecadillac. I agree with Hanna that context matters. The context I’m thinking of however is what your other options are. I believe that your chances of admission to Yale are very small. (Hell, they’d be pretty small even if you scored 800-740-740). If the application fee is a significant impediment, or if you just feel that you want to limit your total applications to something you can handle, and you are trying to figure out how likely admission to Yale is – I’d say what matters is whether there are other schools on the list that better satisfy your needs. It sounds like one of your needs is a reasonable chance of admission. On that basis, it’s my opinion that Yale is not a good bet for you.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you are applying to Yale with the attitude of ‘what the hell - I probably won’t get in but even at 20:1 odds it’s worth a flyer’ - then go for it.</p>
<p>well my context might help…i am a first gen student, come from a pretty low income family (~$60,000 this year), go to a pretty new high school (if that makes a difference, i mean, it’s a pretty good school but not like an elite prep school.)</p>
<p>anyway, i think i’ll give yale a shot. i’m deleting a lot of my other reaches but ehh you never know, they may see something in me i guess. if i don’t try, i’ll never know. :)</p>
<p>and besides, i already have uc davis as my safety and people have said that i should consider uc berkeley and ucla as pretty much safeties too so i’m not worried…but i might as well give a few of the ivies a shot.</p>
<p>Honestly, I don’t exactly expect a Yale applicant to express happiness over an advantage, and so explicitly. I got 2400 on SAT1 and even that does not automatically puts me in a superior position, and I doubt anyone should feel that way regardless of their oh-so-great scores. No offense, but I think we are here to communicate on the same ground, pigs. I apologize if that was not your intention.
In my opinion, 2140 is not that impressive for Yale. But again each year Yale admits a proportion of applicants around that score. Not sure how many, but definitely some. Context really matters. And hey, you can always make up by presenting other strengths you have. Maybe Yale is just looking for some of them.
So that was the encouragement. On a lower note, even if you have a higher score, you may still get rejection - thousands of applicants do each year.
So I guess what I want to say is, that your chances may be really slim, but unless you have to make significant sacrifice to apply to Yale, go for it. After all, we more often regret the things we didn’t do. Work hard, but don’t get your hopes up. Maybe that is the attitude. Hope I can be of help.</p>
<p>@pigs, with all due respect, that was really mean of you to say something like that. The OP is asking for some suggestions and support. This is not a thread for you to feel superior to the others. @whitecadillac, the Math score is definitely one of your greatest disadvantages but there’s nothing you can do about it (if you don’t plan on retaking the test, that is). So focus on your other elements of the app. Think what about you would make the committee want you in spite of your score. Your chances are not so favorable but it is POSSIBLE to get in. I think if you love Yale, go for it. At least you can say that “I tried, I have no regrets.” It’s way much better than assume that you’re going to fail and not make an attempt at all.
Oh, by the way, I know of one guy who got into Yale SCEA with a 2180 and he’s totally unhooked. So best of luck!:)</p>
<p>thanks so much for the encouragement, you guys! and that’s great to hear that a hookless applicant got in with a 2180…does give me some hope. ^_^</p>
<p>dude just take the act. It’s a lot easier to get a better score. The math on it is pretty direct. Just pick up a Sparknotes/Princeton review book and you’re set.</p>
<p>sat - lots of time, lots of tricks
act - time crunch, very direct</p>
but do they count 600 as in the 500 - 599 range even though its above that?</p>
and that’s great to hear that a hookless applicant got in with a 2180…does give me some hope. ^_^</p>