Please Chance Me (Brown, Wharton, Georgetown, Tufts, Duke, Williams)

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Please Chance Me for the Following: Brown, Wharton, Georgetown, Tufts, Duke, Williams, Northwestern, Cornell, NYU-Stern</p>

<p>SAT: 2250 (Math-760, Writing-780, Verbal-710)</p>

<p>SAT II: Latin-780, Math IIC-750</p>

<p>Courses and GPA: School does not rank, almost A with a few A-
Fresh-Junior Year: English, Math, History, Science, Spanish, Latin, and Gym
--Honors classes in Science, Spanish, Math, and Latin
Senior year: AP Calc, AP Stats, AP Psych, AP Spanish (unfortunately no AP Latin or AP Econ), English, Econ, Gym</p>

<p>Extracurriculars at school: Freshman/JV Football; Intramural Sports; Spanish Club</p>

<p>Honors: summa cum laude on National Latin Exam sophomore and junior year</p>

<p>Activities outside of school: Worked as a research assistant for a professor and Ph.D. student at a local university starting summer after sophomore year (not one of the schools I'll be applying to); Developed independent research project under the grad student's guidance that may be submitted for publication (if so, probably as co-authors)</p>

<p>Reference Letters: from Latin and Math teachers; probably good but I'm not expecting anything earth shattering</p>

<p>Essay: still working on it; probably good but I'm not expecting anything earth shattering</p>

<p>Backstory: nothing particularly noteworthy (e.g. no legacy connections, under-represented minority status, etc .... )</p>

<p>(Anything else I'm missing?)</p>

<p>I'm happy to chance anybody else back in exchange!</p>

<p>Any application advice would also be much appreciated!</p>

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<p>Brown: reach
Wharton: reach
Georgetown: high match
Tufts: low reach / high match
Duke: low reach
Williams: low reach
Northwestern: low reach
Cornell: low reach
NYU-Stern: low reach </p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

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<p>Can you prepare for the AP Latin exam independently? Do you have any research materials that you can directly include in your application? Do you think you can get a rec from either the prof. or the grad student? </p>

<p>Brown: low reach
Wharton: very high reach
Georgetown: high match
Tufts: match
Duke: low reach
Williams: low reach
Northwestern: low reach
Cornell: low reach
NYU-Stern: match </p>

<p>You may want to add some more “match” schools to your list, or at least those that might be closer to a “high match.” Perhaps, BU, BC, Vanderbilt, Ohio State?</p>

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<p>rowerruns:
How can you say brown is a “low reach” when about 90% of the applicants with his stats are getting rejected?</p>

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<p>soze: I did not mean any offense by putting Brown as a low reach. It was my guess because I thought they, in particular, would really eat up the research experience. I’ve known people from my high school who went onto Brown with a similar background of good test scores and high grades but nothing close to the most rigorous coursework possible or involvement in many extracurriculars but substantial and impressive involvement in something unordinary or outside of school like research; these same folks did not get into other schools of a similar caliber like UPenn, Cornell, Dartmouth. If I am mistaken, my apologies. I do not mean to mislead latinlover97 or offend anybody else here.</p>

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<p>alicejohnson: Thank you for bringing that to my attention. I knew that the test score range was not necessarily higher at Brown, but I didn’t realize that it was indeed a tad higher at Duke. </p>

<p>Based on those links, it looks like the original poster has very competitive test scores and grades, but a below average courseload and extracurricular list. In the end, if the research is seen as particularly noteworthy that may be enough to compensate for both of these factors, but I’m not the person to ask about that. All I know is that I’ve seen people get into Brown for whom their research backgrounds I’d imagine pushed them over into the acceptance bin.</p>

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<p>brown: low reach
wharton:reach
gtown:match
tufts: match
duke, northwetsern,williams: low reach
nyu: match</p>

<p>Good Luck.</p>

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<p>Thank you all for the advice! </p>

<p>I hope Brown would love my research background. :)</p>

<p>@rowerruns Yes, I suppose that I could ask the graduate student who I worked under for a recommendation letter. The professor seems to busy. Would you recommend that. What type of research materials could I include in my application?</p>

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<p>Why not ask the graduate student for a letter? He/She probably has more higher education training than your teachers at school! </p>

<p>It’s probably too late to put together an Intel STS application, but I’m sure going past that first round in that would seal you that admissions ticket to Wharton!</p>

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<p>I would apply to like Boston college or Brandeis or somewhere like that for safety</p>

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<p>Sorry, but BC and Brandeis are not safties.</p>

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<p>@cats thank you for the suggestion to look at brandeis and babson.</p>

<p>@soze thank you for the feedback. are you suggesting that BC is not a safety school for me, in particular, or not a safety school for anybody? </p>

<p>@rowerruns Intel STS seemed like a lot of work, but I could certainly include an abstract of the research. As for a reference letter, I’ll talk to the grad student.</p>

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<p>For latinlovers stats, bc and Brandeis aren’t exactly safeties but they are matches and if he writes adequate essays they should have no problem getting in. Boston university would be a true safety and you would definetly get some money from there, if that’s an issue.</p>

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<p>Might add Holy Cross-top25 LAC which has one of the better Classics programs. Holy Cross also offers merit scholarships for classics majors and imo has stronger program than BC, BU, Brandeis. Holy Cross is also need-blind for admissions and might be a safety.</p>

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<p>You’ll be competitive, but those are all reaches/low reaches. But that research is very cool and I think it could make a big difference in your application. </p>

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<p>It’s not a safety school for anybody.</p>

<p>BC and Brandeis are sort of mid/low matches for you. If you had a 2350, then they would suspect (perhaps rightly so) that you were using them for a safety and reject you on that basis (this happens a lot…there’s even a name for it: “The Tufts Effect.”).</p>

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<p>@Casts28 Thanks for the confidence about at least BC, Brandeis, and BU. I’d be stoked with those, hopefully as fall back options.</p>

<p>@par72 Thanks for the suggestion of Holy Cross. That wasn’t on my radar at all. Do you know of anywhere else I should be looking into with regards to Classics?</p>

<p>@picklechicken37 Thank you for your encouragement about my research. How do you think I could most effectively convey it in my application?</p>