Please Chance Me for Harvard?

Bah! No time wasted here. In fact, the information was helpful, when placed in the proper context. Thank you.

Your initial post does not describe context very well, actually.

If you had posted that you came from a low income area and your school lacked resources but you had managed to get an education (and, say, play the violin) while working to support your family, for instance, you would get 1000% support here.

Most posters on the Harvard forum are well aware that Harvard and other schools are looking for low income students who are able to do their academic programs.

If you are truly passionate about letting students, who ordinarily wouldn’t apply, know that they have a chance, there are straightforward ways to do that. Perhaps you could ask Harvard or Yale how you might help. Or you could let your guidance counselor know you are interested in spreading the word. Or post a message on the parent’s forum here.

I certainly agree with the message, if not the medium.

@compmom This. There wasn’t an accurate description of hooks in the OP

@compmom @ReadyForTheWind

Thank you! I didn’t consider that, and I feel sorry that I did not. I really appreciate your suggestions, and I do not mean to start anything here, but I just want to say that I feel that your remarks questioning my authenticity on these matters are uncalled for. Maybe I am misinterpreting your tone, and I apologize if I am. :slight_smile:

I didn’t think too deeply before posting, and that was my mistake. Like I’ve said, I’m genuinely sorry if I offended you. Based on my experiences and coming from my background, CC’s perception of low-income/first-generation status being a hook doesn’t change the perception of students living those realities. The impression that I was under (and honestly still sort of am, along with many people I know) was that it doesn’t make a huge difference–that mindset was what I was trying to portray in my initial post. Why accept a low-income student with “averagely good” stats/extracurriculars if there’s a student from a top boarding school with a 2400 on the SAT who has 1000s of volunteering hours and national awards? I know this probably does not correlate with reality (as we’ve both acknowledged, and as top schools have acknowledged in attempting to assess students’ access to resources, and in deeply considering students’ backgrounds), and I’m not sure if you’ve had much experience with students from low-income communities, but this is a common sentiment.

As an unrelated sidenote: I’m also not sure how I feel about low-income/first-gen being considered a hook. I know that this a CC thing, and I don’t mean to attack you on this personally (or attack anyone, really, I just wanted to point this out in general!!) but I feel like this simplifies reality far too much. In the end, does anyone really benefit from being low-income? Maybe I’m just sensitive to this because of how many times I’ve heard people tell, in the same vein, minority applicants that they “probably got in because of affirmative action” or because the school needed diversity, and they fit the bill. It really degrades accomplishments and doesn’t help with how it perpetuates impostor syndrome and feelings of inferiority amongst applicants with less-privileged backgrounds.

I do think you are right in saying that there are better ways for me to get this message out, and I will certainly seek them in the future because this is something that is important to me! I just think that maybe I am not communicating clearly enough, or you are misunderstanding my intentions, and if any of those misunderstandings are due to me, then I apologize–that’s not your fault. :slight_smile:

I definitely do see your point, though. Of course, you are absolutely correct in saying that I could’ve done this in a more straightforward way, and it was silly of me not to.

I sure hope I did not waste people’s time as you previously suggested, but this is the internet, and we can’t always take everything too seriously. People do make mistakes, and it’s more important that they learn from them. I have from you, so thank you.

I hope that maybe this helps clarify a little bit? Or maybe it will confuse you more–I hope not. In the end, I hope we can settle this on a good note. Thank you!!!

There is no point making a mountain out of a mole hill here. Your initial post does not mention any of this, that is the only thing I wanted to say: it’s just a matter of logic. You explained posting a chance thread when already admitted as having something to do with advocacy for low income applicants and I just think that is a stretch. It’s between you and yourself why you started this thread. Noone is horribly upset or miffed here. You’re only 18 years old. Forget about this and move on to exciting things ahead. Good luck, really. Last post on this.