Please chance me, I appreciate it.

Chance Me / Match Me!
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Here is what my application will likely look like
Political science and Jewish studies major
SAT CR:640:( M:730 W:700 (2070) will try to retake in November, is it necessary?
ACT 31C: (35E, 31M, 31R, 27S uggh:()
SAT iis: 710 USH taking Math1
GPA 4.0 out 4.0 UW, 4.25 W
AP tests: 5 Eng Lang, 5 USH, 4 Euro, next year will take Comp gov, Spanish, Macro, Stat
Academic awards: not really given at my school, but in ninth grade I got awards in math, English, science, and social studies (9th grade middle school awards) APUSH class MVP
School: Competitive school district in PA
Ethnicity: White
Income: top
ECs: president of NHS, president of Jewish Culture Club, captain of relay for life team, oboe/English horn, marching band, foreign affairs club, intern at state rep’s office
Recs (they should be very solid): APUSH, APLang, Summer teacher from Oxford University, state rep, guidance counselor
Summers: internship at rep, studied International law in Oxford, summer of 2013 my mother had ovarian cancer:(
Misc: I am a very enthusiastic student and that should be evident within my essays, I’m extremely motivated (I am a work horse) and passionate

Emory ED1
Brandeis maybe ED2
Colgate maybe ED2
UCLA
Bates
American
Bowdoin maybe

Thanks for the feedback

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all of them are matches in my opinion, whether low or high
although i would improve test scores if you can :slight_smile:
chance me back please http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/18846416#Comment_18846416

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I agree with the above poster, if you can then retake one of the tests. Your ACT scores look pretty good though, for your schools, and all of them seem to be matches, with the exception of UCLA, which may be a low reach (what’s your UC GPA? and are you from CA?).

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I have a 4.0 unweighted and I have taken the most challenging schedule I could considered band takes up a full block. I’ve tried to calculate my UC gpa, but I’m not entirely sure how to do it; and I’m not from California.
Thanks for the feedback.

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OOS students pay full fees for California public schools; that’s $55k per year, and as an OOS, you cannot gain instate residency if you come to California for educational purposes.

Additionally, OOS students are typically surprised by the “F” requirement of one full year of visual/performing arts in a graded classroom. http://www.ucop.edu/agguide/a-g-requirements/f-visual-performing-arts/index.html

Use the link to calculate your UC GPA. OOS students can only use AP and IB classes for extra weight. You cannot use OOS honors courses for extra weight.
http://rogerhub.com/gpa-calculator-uc/

Your SAT and ACT are not competitive for UCLA, sorry.

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To be respectful I’m not sure where you got the idea that I’d try to gain California residency to not have to pay out of state tuition. I also beg to differ that my test scores aren’t competitive as I’ve done my fair share of research and my school’s naviance seems to say otherwise.

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I also wanted to attend college in CA, apparently it’s hard to gain residency during college. Although these posters were from CA, I doubt it’s impossible.
I think they’re all matches.

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OP, your scores are squarely in the middle 50% for UCLA. That MIGHT be good enough (considering OOS admission is MORE competitive for entry). You still have to meet the A-G requirements which include fine arts (band may cover that). If your parents are rich enough to afford the $50K+/year good on you. You won’t get in-state tuition (it’s Virtually impossible unless your parents move). And you DO need to run the Calculator to see what your UC GPA is. It’s very hard for OOS students to get the additional weight for courses.

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Thank you Erin’s dad that clears up some of the confusion.

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You may not like to hear that again but I agree with @“aunt bea” that your scores are not competitive for UCLA: Low Reach

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Scores are already great, i wouldn’t retake

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Is UCLA your top school here? Because besides that you should be a good applicant for most of them. If you want to go to a UC, have you considered UCD or UCI?

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Not at all actually. If anything it is at or close to the bottom. I’m not even completely sure that I will apply. I added to my list just because my school’s naviance put me in range, it seemed like a neat place to go to school, and I’d be able to pay the oos tuition. At this point I’m all in to go early decision to Emory.

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I think you have a good chance at Emory ED.

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That’s awesome thanks so much for the feedback pupscotch☺️.

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I think you have a decent chance at all those schools. Retake the SAT/ACT if you think you’ll improve though! Chance me back?

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I included residency, because that is usually the first question asked after fees.

You’ve asked to be chanced but you didn’t like the response for UCLA. I will tell you why I believe UCLA is a reach:

You are not a California resident. Plain and simple, that is a major hurdle.

The UC’s primary purpose is to serve California students. There are so many other students in California with your stats or better. The Governor has indicated that he wants more California kids admitted to California schools and is making “room” for them in the budget. The California taxpayers want their kids admitted to their instate universities such that there is a lot of political pressure to admit residents.

Essentially, you are competing to take a seat from an instate student, which is already difficult to achieve as an OOS student:

You weren’t able to calculate your UC gpa. UC adcoms really review your 10th and 11th grade work.

Your SAT is low compared to instate resident scores of over 2250.

Your ACT average was produced because of a high English score. Average scores for instate residents who have been admitted have been 34-36, per my information from my former students.

Having had 3 children admitted to the UC’s, has given me an indication of the students they seek.

(My son was the most recent admit to UCLA. He went to another university, but he did get in with an SAT of 2370, athlete, Eagle Scout, California Congressmen letters of recommendation, etc., ad nauseum.) Plus, instate resident.

You need backup schools. If you really want to be chanced, you need to be able to “take” the various opinions posted. Debating how great you are, with us, won’t make it any easier to find your honest chances.

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If what you say about UCLA is correct then I guess it’s certainly out of reach. It was quite clear that you looked at nothing but my scores and made an immediate decision on my chances.

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FYI: I agree that I can be harsh in my opinions^^. A lot of that stems from the Spring acceptance months.

In March and April, we had kids in tears, streaming into offices, with their parents, with minimal acceptances. In the fall, when we would tell students to make sure to apply to back-ups, they would scoff and say, “but I’m for sure getting in!” We would tell them to plan for the best AND plan for the worst.

What was really sad was when they got into their schools, and were really excited, but couldn’t pay for them. You’ll notice I HARP on money, all of the time!! A college education is not CHEAP. So, I try to be realistic here because you NEVER know. The LA and Berkeley admits continue to be excessively quirky every year.

Another thing that students, in your position don’t want to consider, are the private schools of California. The UCs and CSU’s are very competitive because instate students can afford them-so they apply. UCLA and Berkeley are prestigious, but they are also crapshoots. For some reason, OOS students don’t want to consider the privates, which have lots more money to offer to OOS, but the “prestige factor” may not be there. Yes, they are more expensive, but they also can mitigate that by offering more money to make the attendance affordable.

If you really want to go to school in California, consider the privates like:
USC, USD, Santa Clara, Pepperdine, Chapman, Loyola Marymount, the Clairmont McKenna Colleges (i.e. Scripps, Pomona, Harvey Mudd). Your stats will get you into these. Yes, many of them have the religious affiliation, but the education is not biased. Everything is not at UCLA.

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I apologize if there was any misunderstanding. I respect your expertise and knowledge on the UC system. I was just confused considering the discrepancies in the stats published by UCLA and the ones you provided. I suppose this comes from the gap between state and out of state applicants. I also admit I’m rather unfamiliar with the UC system as well considering my top schools are all on the east coast. Again I’m very sorry if misinterpreted your post and I appreciate your ability to inform me on more about the UC system. I hope there are no hard feelings.