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<p>University of Colorado
Washington State University
Arizona State University
Oregon State University
Western Washington University
Virginia Commonwealth University
University of Oregon
University of Arizona
University of Washington
Drexel University
University of the Sciences in Philadelphia
Colorado State University</p>

<p>I am considering Drexel's accelerated program. I am also considering VCU's 8-year guaranteed admission program. I am a high school sophomore right now, and I had the worst possible GPA for a future doctor (2.6). I have worked hard my sophomore year and I earned a 3.6 GPA 1st semester and as of now 2nd semester I have a 4.0.</p>

<p>I am expecting a 3.3+ cumm. GPA and 1800+ or 1900+ on the SAT. I am also planning 3 IB courses.</p>

<p>Can someone help me with this dilemma? Do I have a chance at these schools and their programs? Am I aiming too low or high? </p>

<p>Please don't say I am too young to worry about this because in my opinion I am not.</p>

<p>Thank you very much for any answers and help.</p>

<p>Hey, are u from VA? i asked b/c of VCU, I live near it and have the IB program in my school(im in pre-IB). You are a shoo-in for VCU. It is so easy to get into. I know an IB kid from my school who got accepted to VCU's Guaranteed Medical School program.</p>

<p>I'm not a IB Diploma candidate though. No, I am from Seattle.</p>

<p>Accelerated programs are bad on so many levels, as a first year med student, trust me you don't want to do that.</p>

<p>The VCU program is interesting if you can get in. Not sure that a 3.3 GPA in HS is good enough though.</p>

<p>As for the rest, if $$ isn't a problem, go to the place where you will feel most comfortable and have the most fun, while also doing the best you can in your classes.</p>

<p>If you do well in your coursework in undergrad and put together the other components of your application, then you can go to medical school from any place.</p>

<p>Hey Bigred, why are accelerated med programs bad? I have heard only praise for them so far.</p>

<p>why wouldnt you go to UW if you can get in i has one of the best med schools in the county</p>

<p>Sure it has the best med school in the country but that doesn't necessarily mean it has a good pre-med program. I'm interested in the combined/guaranteed admit programs myself.</p>

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Hey Bigred, why are accelerated med programs bad? I have heard only praise for them so far.

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<p>Reasons why I think combined/accelerated programs are bad: (I'm not talking about VCU or any other sort of program where you get 4 years of regular undergrad).</p>

<p>1). What happens if you realize half way through organic that you don't want to do medicine. This is a bigger problem especially if you get some medicine classes from the beginning. Time, money are wasted when you decided that medicine is not for you - and there are a lot of people who decide that (granted less at one of these programs but still).</p>

<p>2). No evidence that they produce better doctors. If there was someway to go about showing the benefits of these programs, it might be worth it.</p>

<p>3). Cost...often (like in the case of UMKC) 6 years costs way more than 4 and 4 (depending on where you go).</p>

<p>4). Inability to meet people. You're pretty much limited to your class and the people a year ahead and behind you at the minimum. So much of college is just about spending time with other people doing nothing imparticular.</p>

<p>5). When I got accepted to UMKC for the fall of 2001, I asked the kids on my interview what they did, and most said they had zero free time. </p>

<p>6). Lack of the college experience. Most people on this website are too concerned about prestige and careers to realize that college is the absolute most amazing time of your life...you have little to zero responsibility and an equal amount of consequences for your actions. A combined program robs you of that. You don't get to go to the all-night parties, or go on a roadtrip with your buddies that requires everyone to get a test rescheduled (b/c you need to experience a "full" weekend in another town to really get a feel for it, and that requires Thursday nights). The singular focus of a combined/accelerated program robs you of things that make higher ed worthwhile.</p>

<p>7). There are also maturity issues and things of that nature. You grow so much each year of college, that 2 years can make a big difference.</p>

<p>8). The only benefit is that you get done two years early, and I'm not sure that is enough to outweigh what two years of undergrad is worth.</p>

<p>9). The singular focus of the programs. College is really the only time where you get the opportunity to purely just learn for the sake of learning. You can take that class about Jazz, or the political implications of the vietnam war or whatever. You have to fill some electives somehow and so many courses are things you'd never otherwise learn about without some serious self discipline. The accelerated nature fo these programs just don't allow that exploration.</p>

<p>I think that part of the problem is that you guys have all these expectations of what college might be like, and I've graduated in 4 years and know that the day I walked across that stage was one of saddest days of my life (and it wasn't only b/c I was extremely hungover and hungry...what I wouldn't have given for a bloody mary and a sandwich at that point). The friends, the memories, the random people, the parties, the hookups, the extracurricular events, the football games, Homecoming...I could go on and on and on. There's just no way to justify the loss of things like that.</p>

<p>Wow..those are very good points. Do you feel the same way about the 8-yr programs? or is it just the accelerated ones?</p>

<p>College is a time of relaxing..but relaxing too much would bring down your GPA which is bad for med school.</p>

<p>How hard is to get a good social life and get a good GPA at the same time during your undergrad years?</p>

<p>Thanks a lot for those points.</p>

<p>The 8 year programs not as much. Most of those, from what I've seen, don't seem to put but a few intro medicine courses in the undergrad years. You may have to do a lot of extra stuff to stay in them (I think VCU required 120 hours a year of shadowing/volunteering or something like that) but you could make it work. I'm sure that with all my EC's in undergrad that I spent well over that amount of time each year.</p>

<p>I wouldn't say that College is a time of relaxing (though I suppose it could be) but rather a time to work hard, play harder. However going too far in either direction can be very problematic.</p>

<p>It's all about finding that balance where you can pull off about the grades you want while doing the fun stuff too. Little things can eat up your time though, and I especially saw in my fraternity that video games can just destroy a person on all levels, and that was even with tons of people around getting them to other things. In a dorms, they can really be a death knell. That's just one example...</p>

<p>If you raise your gpa just a little bit, i m sure you could get into VCU. I agree with Bigredmed. Those combined accelerated programs sound good on paper but if you know the requirements you're basically signing your life away-limiting yourself of the independence you get in college</p>

<p>If you are in an accelerated program you can't get kicked out..can you?</p>

<p>If you are in an 8-yr program there is always a chance to get kicked out...so in that way isn't accelerated program?</p>

<p>for accelerated, it is possible you can get kicked out if you go below the required gpa-i think. Correct me if i'm wrong</p>

<p>Oh, i thought you could only get kicked out of 8-yr programs if your GPA goes below 3.5.</p>