<p>This is really starting to annoy me. I was unable to sign up for Calc 21B because it’s nowhere near the open courses list. I did not work my butt of and get a 5 on the AP Calc AB test just to sign up for 21A again! ** I will simply not accept that kind of rubbish! I will have to protest or something.** Do they make any exceptions? Like if you’re a distinguished or remarkable student showing exception abilities in calculus? I signed up for Calc 21C instead but I have not yet taken 21B. Do you think there is a shot for me in 21C. I really think I can handle the coursework.</p>
<p>Please help! I am willing to trade Calc 21C for Calc 21B!</p>
<p>Edit: My next pass time is tomorrow! How is the waitlist for Calc 21B looking?</p>
<p>Calc 21B was probably not offered this quarter.. I'm not completely sure. Check the Fall course schedule. If you don't see it in there, it's not offered.</p>
<p>According to the registration guide there is only enough room for 300 students out of the entire university in math 21b.
There are 2 spots in 21a, 0 spots in 21b, and 0 spots in 21c. You shouldn't be taking up one of the 21c spots. The professor might even announce the first day of class that those who haven't taken 21B will be dropped.</p>
<p>I'm sure you're upset, and several other "stellar" students are as well. Incoming freshman are the bottom of the priority list though. For all you know there could be a sophomore who was in your predicament last year and still needs 21b.
You could try waitlisting for 21b, perhaps if you're one of the first on the list you'll get a spot. Several people do drop courses as the start of the quarter approaches. But unfortunately, the university is not going to create another course to accommodate your needs. For you, taking 21a would be better than attempting 21c.
21a = derivatives
21b = integrals
21c = partial derivatives, 3D stuff
21d = vector stuff</p>
<p>Wow, why waste my time with derivatives in integrals if that was all Calc AB? I feel like I'm ready for 21C. Can't I take some test provided by the teacher or just stay in the class to see how I do? I already know about polar coordinates, lengths of arcs, and all that rudimentary nonsense! I'm ready to move on to multiple integrals and re-visit my pal's Green and Stokes. Heck, in fact I should be taking Vector analysis. Curl, div, grad. stuff is so easy. I've been reading up on advanced calculus for a couple of years now! I don't think they understand. Not to sound arrogant, but my dad has a Ph.D. in Aerospace Engineering from MIT! They have to let me stay in that class!</p>
<p>I'm sorry if I'm taking over your topic, but this might help you too.
I was wondering if it would be a bad idea to just take the A class if getting into the B class is impossible.
Couldn't we just fill it up with something more useful, like a GE?</p>
<p>NVM, I just signed up for 16b with no problems. Good luck to you cybershot.</p>
<p>mm at my school we do all of a, then half of b in ab.
bc is rest of b and all of c.</p>
<p>as stellar as u may be at calc, it sounds like u werent in the highest math track as it is. you do start to really understand b material in bc, as well. i dont think you learned nearly as much of b as you thought. i took both ab(5) and bc(4) and even with a measly 4 on bc i am in the same place as you.</p>
<p>oh and i think ur automatically dropped anyways bc u didnt fulfill the req.</p>
<p>Don't be entirely fooled by the simplicity of my explanations of the courses. I also got a 5 on the calc AB test but took 21a, 21b, 21c etc.. There were things covered in 21b that I didn't learn in my calc AB class (including integration by parts, integrals of the obscure trig functions, and a few other things... but it was several years ago so I can't remember the details).</p>
<p>CyberShot - If you feel confident in your awesome calc abilities, email the math 21c prof and see if he thinks it's a problem that you haven't taken 21b.</p>
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<p>If you know everything, then why didn't you take BC this year? Why waste time taking the AB test when you could've taken the BC test and saved yourself from this predicament? >w<;; </p>
<p>AP tests are a joke. They are so formulated that you don't have to cover everything in Calculus. I mean, Delta-Epsilon proofs? Where the heck were they? My AB teacher covered them afterwards because he realized colleges were teaching them. We also skipped over the really weird sin, cos, tan stuff (I don't remember what they were, but basically they had sin, cos, and tan... but they weren't. Haha.) in BC because the AP test didn't cover them. Hole in my edumacation? Yep.</p>
<p>One of my acquaintances is a f-cking math GENIUS. I took BC with him. Found mistakes that the teacher made (and, mind you, the BC teacher is amazing. He rarely, if ever, makes mistakes. His class is like, the second hardest class on campus). Five on the BC exam. And guess what said acquaintance is taking? 21A! </p>
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<p>BTW, what your father can do is irrelevant. You are not your father, are you? ;]</p>
<p>Anyway, if you think you REALLY can handle 21C, DO IT. Why come to us for advice/help? But just remember that hindsight is 20/20! </p>
<p>Suto, we covered everything you mentioned..integration by parts, integrals/derivs of inverse trig functions were all on the AP test I think..</p>
<p>Anyways, I only mentioned my father because he could help me on this stuff if I feel that I cannot do it alone.</p>
<p>Thanks for the idea about e-mailing though. I will do that!</p>
<p>Edit: I couldn't take the BC test because it was not offered in my area lol. I wish it was..I would've even taken the CD test if there were one!</p>
<p>Actually, I'm talking about the hyperbolic stuff. >w<;; That should be in second semester Calculus. And I think you mean pearlinthemist, not me. ;] By no means did I mention any of those things.</p>
<p>I know for a fact that integration by parts is not on the AB test. Lol. It's on the BC test, though, so I assume you did BC practice tests?</p>
<p>Lol, what the heck? Integration by parts was in our 5th or 6th chapter I believe.</p>
<p>Where the int u dv = uv-int v du, right?</p>
<p>Although perhaps that was not on the AP test, we were still required to know it and were tested on it. Hmm</p>
<p>Integrals of hyperbolic functions are merely extensions of regular trig functions. I have those memorized too. int sinh ax dx= 1/a cosh ax + C. I can even do inverse hyperbolic functions..</p>
<p>21C? You registered for that without reading the hand guide thoroughly? 21C has initial class prerequisites which you just don't have regardless of that score. I got a score of 5 on Calculus BC, but you don't see me complaining or signing up for a class I'm not eligible for to begin with.</p>
<p>You're definitely talented, but you didn't read carefully. We all knew we weren't going to get ideal schedules. I'm currently in 16A....with a score of 5 on the BC exam..and a 750 on the Math section of the SATs. There was no 17A course that was good enough without screwing up my schedule (no I'm not going into Engineering). </p>
<p>I signed up for 22A since i took vector calculus at a cc while i was in high school. I also took two calculus classes before that to meet the prerequisites.
In terms of units, i have 22 units in calculus.</p>
<p>My questions is that how can i find out if the Vector Calculus class is the same thing as 21D?</p>
<p>I also have an another question. I am trying to take Physics 9A but its closed (not allowed to waitlist). Are freshmen allowed to register for that class?</p>
<p>i too got a 5 on the calc bc test but i'm going with 17A (im not an engineering major). at orientation they said that it looks better to do abc instead of skipping one if you plan on applying to grad school. and i don't mind taking an easy class :P</p>
<p>Ack! Now I'm getting mixed feelings. I signed up for 16a, but then changed it to 17b. Should I change to 17a because it will be easier to get an A in the class? I only took the calcAB exam and passed that.</p>