my grades are mediocre i will probs end up with a 3.5. but i want to get into an ivy. loopholes?? I already know that its hard and my chances are low. i am asking for help.
Unless you have done something truly extraordinary with your life, are a recruited athlete, have a parent who donated a building etc. there are no loopholes. You can always throw in a reach application or two to Ivy level schools, but why don’t you spend your time and energy focusing on the many great schools you can qualify for.
whats something extraordinary that i can do??? @happy1
Please read all the advice that you have been given in your previous posts. You seem to be asking the same question and not taking the advice you are given.
Be Malala, Malia Obama or Ed Sheerhan.
Donate a wing to a university hospital.
Cure a disease.
TL:DR Nothing
Long answer is that colleges see right through this ploy. Applicants try it all the time. They’re looking for passion and long term commitment to something for its own sake, not for the purpose of developing a hook.
My suggestion, concentrate on finding schools that are a fit for the record you’ve amassed. Finding a secret loophole will be as successful as finding the secret loophole to the stock market.
Any extraordinary achievement would have to come from your own singular talents, hard-work, dedication, passion, perseverance, long-term commitment, innovation, etc. and not from a suggestion from an anonymous poster on a blog. I suggest you re-read the answers to your other similar questions on CC and focus your search on schools that match your record of achievement. And keep in mind that most ECs cannot make up for academics that are below par for the school.
The help I am offering is to suggest you need to form a list of colleges to apply to based on reality. That means your grades and test scores need to be above the 50th percentile. Unless you are hooked, you will not be going to an Ivy League school. Sorry if that isn’t what you want to hear.
People have told you OVER AND OVER on multiple threads you should start to dream more realistically. Ivies are competitive even for perfect students!!!
Maybe if you go to high school in China and then send a bunch of fake stuff but even that’s a gamble lmao
Ivy Leagues are not the be-all end-all of college admissions. There are plenty of other amazing schools that you will be able to thrive at.
If you tell us what you liked about a particular ivy we could suggest other colleges with the same attributes. If you just want a famous college that people have heard of you should see which colleges have won the football and basketball championships. For reals, the average person doesn’t know any better.
the problem is, i want a school that smart people go to. i want to prove everyone wrong. i want to show people i am going places after college
i mean high school
There are way more smart people than the top 20 LACs and the top 30 universities have seats for. Think of all the thousands of high schools across the country. Every high school has their top 10%.
The most important factor for success is a person’s own internal drive and motivation. If you are willing to work hard, take advantage of opportunities, SEARCH out opportunities, you will go places.
So what activities or social issues are important to you? Do you want to get involved in that at a deeper level?
Also don’t under estimate the value of going somewhere where you can shine. College will be what you make of it. Find a school that is a match for you and show everyone by being the top student there and not just average. Do excellent in your undergrad work and aim for a top grad school or do great for two years and try to transfer. There is no way to sneak into a top school.
@collegecurious49 there are no loopholes and students who attend an Ivy or who are qualified for these schools ( even if they don’t attend) don’t ask these questions. They just do it… automatically…
And… the kids who just do it automatically…without being told… because it’s in their blood… they “just” wind up at those championship schools. Just sayin’
( I am becoming quite defensive in my old age)
@collegecurious49, you’re asking for help to get into these schools?
How are people on this website supposed to “please help” you get in?
Perfect stats and a resume doesn’t even get you a seat.
You have to be extraordinary. And it’s not to prove anything to anyone.
@twogirls is spot on. People who get in were already “in” years ago.
@collegecurious49 In the big picture you are doing things right. You want to go beyond your local opportunities so you did an internet search and found a place where you could ask questions and research. Learning form this site over time will help you ask more developed questions, different questions, and expose you to a variety opportunities.
Here is an opportunity you may not have encountered before: College of Wooster has a senior capstone project that is very rigorous and excellent training for grad schools. You may not have heard of it before but people in the know will have. Students who enroll here want this kind of education.
The fact is that colleges are looking at your track record with regard to grades, scores, ECs. If you haven’t shown in any of these areas that you can excel why would they believe you’ll start in college. Let’s be honest, 3.5 is a good GPA and some colleges may recalculate it higher - it just won’t get you into an Ivy.
Even colleges you would think are not top colleges have people that are very smart and courses that are challenging. Your local state university has some people as smart as any in the Ivy league/top schools. They just ended up in-state because they wanted to stay close to home or didn’t have money to pay for other schools.
What can you do? Study and try to get really high ACT or SAT. That would show your potential and with GPA might get you into an honors program. And when you get there, I guarantee you’ll find some academically strong students to challenge you. My D went from state school to Ivy grad. Friends of hers also got into top grad programs in their fields. Your world has not ended.
Trust me @collegecurious49 there are plenty of amazing colleges that will send you places that you can get into with a 3.5, but it probably won’t be an ivy league. Maybe your state flagship? What state are you from?