<p>avoco, the food is ok as per my d. the food service they use is also the food service that most boarding schools use in the area. So i guess they are all about the same. MX, has alot of very happy stunedts on their campus.</p>
<p>avoco, that would be the third family i have read on these threads that prefered middlesex over deerfield. of course they are both very great schools. it really depends on how you feel when you visit. you need to kick the tires, ask tuff questions, and roam arround on your own. I will say this about middlesex, they take their studies seriously, but they have fun doing it. i have walked the campus of middlesex unanounced and it was very refreshing to see the smiles and happy faces. my d had choices, she was not influnenced in any way by us/her parents. I feel she made the right choice for her and we still get the smiles. an interesting point, the head of middlesex, her husband teaches at groton.</p>
<p>sorry about the "very great". lol, ingnore very</p>
<p>I agree with everyone who says that you can't go wrong with any of the top 20 schools. It's not the 50's where the pecking order of boarding schools is more importance than their educations or where Andover matriculates over 130 students to Harvard/Yale. Now adays, any of the schools will provide you with an outstanding education and boost your chances of getting into better colleges. From here, it's just a matter of preference.</p>
<p>SC24, bravo!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>i THINK andover is i, milton 2, dunno about the rest.</p>
<p>is peddie PEE-dee, or PAY-dee? just curious cuz have an interview coming up!!</p>
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<blockquote> <p>I feel she made the right choice for her and we still get the smiles. an interesting point, the head of middlesex, her husband teaches at groton.</p> </blockquote>
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<p>prepparent, I thought her husband is currently teaching at middlesex. The head was the director of CC at Groton; her husband teached math over there.</p>
<p>hope, I believe he now is teaching at one of the boarding middle schools.</p>
<p>dxu33, It's like eddy and peddie</p>
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A PRIVATE-SCHOOL AFFAIR The last few years have been ugly for St. Paul's, the exclusive New England boarding school, as it reeled from allegations of financial mismanagement and sexual abuse. Alex Shoumatoff diagnoses his alma mater. Photographs by Jonathan Becker and Vincent Laforet.
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<p>Vanity Fair ........</p>
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Please rank these prep schools!!
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<p>Ummmmmmm...............No. and dont u have anything productive to do with your time. I applied to prep schools, and its a bit retarded to "rank" schools because they're all so different and great in their own ways. some people bug me.</p>
<p>top 5</p>
<ol>
<li>St. Paul's
PA/PE
Deerfield
Groton</li>
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<p>Sound good?</p>
<p>All these schools you asked peaople to rank are so similar as far as matriculation, endowment, founding dates (exeter and andover being in the 1700's so they are extremely old) but there is no set formula to rank them. In my opinion, and I do in fact know quite a bit about the schools you mentioned because I go to a prestigious N.E. prep school and have friends at these schools and play them in sports, rank-</p>
<ol>
<li>Exeter and Andover (for prestige but they are huge by prep standards so they are not for everyone) </li>
<li>Taft, hotchkiss, Choate</li>
<li>Deerfield and lawrencville
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<li>Other schools you may have not mentioned but deserve recognition are Miss Porter's (girls), Loomis Chaffee, SPS (I think the scandals are appalling so I chose not to rank them originally), Groton, Milton, Middlesex, Avon Old farms (boys), and Kent.</li>
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<p>Remember if you plan to apply and are accepted to all or whichever schools you apply to just think about the student life and atmosphere on campus it counts for alot more then you think and is not something you can get off a website or in a brochure/catalog.</p>
<p>^I take personal offense at that shot at st. paul's, have you ever even been there or have any first hand knowledge of the "scandals"? I doubt it. In terms of academic quality it is top notch along with Exeter, Andover, Groton, and Milton (another school with "scandals") You have to realize that there are scandals everywhere, it's just a matter of whether the media reports them or not.</p>
<p>On another note to the original poster, it's stupid to "rank" the top boarding schools, the top 8 or so: Exeter, Andover, SPS, Groton, Hottie, DA, Lawrenceville, Choate, and Taft. These are all pretty similar in terms of the academic rigors (Lawrenceville, DA, Taft, and Choate aren't QUITE as strong academically, but still awesome) When picking between these schools it really comes down to size, location, type of students, PG or no PG, and what sport you want to play.</p>
<p>True true meateater. Depends entirely on personal preferences...</p>
<p>By Wealthyivygirl (Wealthyivygirl) on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 11:03 pm: Edit </p>
<p>OKAY GO BIG GREEN!! </p>
<p>DEERFIELD ACADEMY IS THE BEST SCHOOL ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. and by the way, out of a class of 140, here are its matric stats for this year's class </p>
<p>15 harvard
12 yale
9 princeton
9 upenn
5 columbia
11 brown
14 cornell
7 dartmouth </p>
<p>and like EVERYONE else is going to middlebury, williams, bowdoin </p>
<p>but it's not just the high caliber of the students that makes deerfield academy amazing. lemme put it this way, ANDOVER AND EXETER ARE LIKE HARVARD AND YALE, and deerfield is the PRINCETON of boarding schools. way way way smaller, much wealthier, much classier (we have dress code, sit down meals, academy events, etc.--andover and exeter dont). </p>
<p>i love deerfield. i was graduated in '02 and i love it so much. i miss itmore than anything. </p>
<p>By Jules07 (Jules07) on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 01:02 pm: Edit </p>
<p>IVY girl - where do you go to college ?
Princeton? </p>
<p>By Andoverhopeful (Andoverhopeful) on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 04:19 pm: Edit </p>
<p>Wow, WealthyIvyGirl, you are quite the moron. First, what is wrong with being the Harvard and Yale of boarding schools ? Second, you act like the brat you are and prance around talking about the wealth of you, your school, or whatever. </p>
<p>By the way, Deerfield has an endowment of approx. $250 million. Andover and Exeter have about $500 million each. Deerfield has 140 students per class, Andover and Exeter have about 250. Lets do the math. </p>
<p>$250 Million/4<em>140 = .44 Million per student
$500 Million/4</em>250 = .50 Million per student </p>
<p>Hmm, that's odd. According to you, Deerfield was "Much Richer". I don't think you learned too many math skills at Deerfield. </p>
<p>Class is also high subjective. You cannot simply say one school has more class then another. Also, Exeter does have a dress code, Andover does not (It is one of the reasons I will be going to Andover) </p>
<p>Please, don't force me to make you look stupid again. </p>
<p>BTW, this is not a knock on any deerfield students, it is a great school. </p>
<p>By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 12:25 am: Edit </p>
<p>andoverhopeful, </p>
<p>deerfield's endowment is A LOT higher than $250 million. It's more like $380 million. and what i meant by "richer" is the student body is wealthier than those at other boarding schools...and actually, that's a fault of the d.a. admissions office...they could stand to stop admitting every kid with dual legacies and an 7 figure trust fund. </p>
<p>By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 12:27 am: Edit </p>
<p>haha my bad, did i say 'an 7 figure trust fund'? i meant to say 'an 8 figure trust fund' (hence the 'an') </p>
<p>sorry im a little out of it today... </p>
<p>By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:38 am: Edit </p>
<p>Ok those deerfield matric stats are a little off, Deerfield only discloses the matric CUMULATIVE stats for the past 5 years...so here is the average matric per year. </p>
<p>Harvard: 8
Princeton: 6
Yale: 7
Upenn: 10
Cornell: 10
Brown: 14
Columbia: 2 </p>
<p>Hmm..so 57 go to ivies out of deerfield..and 14 of those are brown which is considered to be one of the worst ivies. And if thats out of a class of 250..those are not very impressive. </p>
<p>I go to a smaller prep school with equal academics called Concord Academy..and we send more kids to science olympiads, more kids to very well known art/music schools (juliard for instance), and more kids to ivies based on proportion. Our average sat mean for this year was 1380. </p>
<p>In a class of 80..we have about about 40 going to ivy+top 10 us news....and that is high considering most of the kids are art-related, or film related-- </p>
<p>By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:42 am: Edit </p>
<p>I don't really care to prove my scoool's reputation to you because i could care less if Deerfield thinks it is better than me but quite frankly, I've talked to adcoms from top 25 schools on west coast and east coast and when they hear "concord academy" they just light up. </p>
<p>We have a different academic style than the deerfield, andover shcools--we are more geared towards love of learning...and in the end-- we have more compelling applications...we have many unique things at concord. I doubt it is the right place for most of you on this forum as you are way too reputation-oriented and haven't relaly found the call to the love of learningl...let me tell you, it rox :-). That is why colleges love our school--we are interesting people, and the true future leaders of world--not ones with daddy's with 8 figure trust funds and 500 million dollar endowments. </p>
<p>By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:43 am: Edit </p>
<p>Deerfield and andover kids ont his board...i've seen ur art curriculum--and let me just say it is a joke. </p>
<p>By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:45 am: Edit </p>
<p>Also, i'm not trying to say any school is better than the other, but you can go to any of these prep schools adn get into a great education...the SCHOOL does NOT MAKE the person...the school simply guides you along the process smoothly...It is not really what school you went to in high school, its how you took advantage of it. I mean most top colleges still do not accept most of their kids from these prep schools..but we have higher chance...but still, all I'm saying is that there are plenty of well-qualified applicants from non-prep school environments..and some of them will get in over YOU. </p>
<p>By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:48 am: Edit </p>
<p>After looking over your english department --(at deerfield)--I am also somewhat dissapointed with our course choices for such a large school--concord has double those choices in upper level electives and we are half our size... </p>
<p>And ur history departmnet...i really cannot believe this..US History required of all juniors..LOL all sophomores are required to take US history at my school..and half of them score 5 on the ap (the ap is optional of course). </p>
<p>By the way, what makes you think these schools are better than another? </p>
<p>I would say by academic facilities, curriculum, teachers, student environemtn, campus...and by curriculum you are definitely slacking.. </p>
<p>By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 03:30 pm: Edit </p>
<p>Dferraro, </p>
<p>IT'S NOT OUT OF A CLASS OF 250, you doofus!! </p>
<p>deerfield has 140 in a graduating class. and you're wrong about those avg. matric stats. i have a sister in the class of 2003 and i know where every single one of them is going to school next year. the stats I have were correct. </p>
<p>By Upenn06 (Upenn06) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 03:35 pm: Edit </p>
<p>and i hate to break it to you but i live on manhattan's upper east side--nobody on the upper east side goes south of the ivies. we know our stuff and NOBODY NOBODY NOBODY on fifth or park avenue even VISITS concord academy. </p>
<p>what are you smoking???? this is ridiculous. how can even begin to compare a place like Deerfield Academy to concord? the dean of admissions from every top ranked school comes and spends a WEEKEND at d.a. and our headmaster and college counselors basically take them around and introduce them to us and sell us to them. </p>
<p>when my headmaster picks up the phone and calls brown, people listen to him (he was also the dean of admissions at brown for about 5 years, so i guess that helps). </p>
<p>just get over it, dude. there's NOTHING wrong with going to concord, but please admit that it's no in the same tier as d.a. </p>
<p>i went to Nightingale until third grade in manhattan...I'm perfectly happy to admit that Nightingale is much lower ranked than a school like Brearley. </p>
<p>of course...then i transferred to dalton... </p>
<p>anyhoo </p>
<p>By Dferraro (Dferraro) on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 04:00 pm: Edit </p>
<p>Upenn 06 -- I'm sure you asked all 140 of them--and by the way, i got my numbers straight from Deerfield's website. </p>
<p>And guess what Upenn06..I live at 78th and park..guess what? I go to concord..guess what? I know many kids from my area who have looked at concord...seems like ur very broad inference turned out wrong. </p>
<p>And yes concord is in same field of deerfield..just look at faculty and curriculum -- prolly 2 most important factors..not to mention no one can beat concords historical setting...i mean it is perfect for those woh are interested in US History as opposed to the boondocks of Deerfield. </p>
<p>Oh yah and so what if the MAJORITY of people in new york dont visit CA..i dont really care because i'm glad my school is not full of snot-nosed silver-spoon fed twerps like you... </p>
<p>Not to mention, we do send more kids to better schools proprotionally... hahaha </p>
<p>Oh also, My sister graduated from andover about 5 years ago--She cautioned me from going to andover after she saw concord...She totally wished she went to Concord...She felt that the competitive atmosphere of Andover did not allow her to develop intellectually and also did not give her the extracurricular and artistic opportunities that CA offers. Also, since most kids go to Liberal arts colleges and Techonology schools from CA, there is less competition for the ivies. She wanted to go to Stanford, but settled for Wharton..she feels if she had gone to CA(concor academy) she would've gotten in... </p>
<p>Well from personal experience, her experience, and the adcoms i have talked to--I am very glad with my high school situation--I'm sure deerfield is great but even my sister says that Andover totally makes fun of you guys for being 1(Snobby 2(Sheltered 3(Totally unprepared for college --and by unprepared, it is probably most significant to socially as you will be exposed to diversity like you have never seen.</p>
<p>I would add Milton, Concord Academy, Cate and St. Andrew's to meateater0387's list, to make a list of 12 top schools. Deerfield has been getting much stronger in the past couple of years.</p>
<p>Did anybody get the Deerfield viewbook? I've only gotten the apps.</p>
<p>Damaris: I actually meant to add Milton, that was an unintentional oversight on my part. I don't know much about Concord Academy, but isn't it mostly a day school that competes with the likes of Landmark Academy, Beaver Country Day and the like? I don't know if I would include Cate in the group, just because it's west coast, but I don't know anything about it. The jury is still out on St. Andrew's simply because it's so new relative to other prep schools. Other schools to throw in are Canterbury, Trinity-Pawling, Hill School, and Middlesex. There are just so many great prep schools out there I could list them all, if you are less academically inclined then you get into even MORE options Brooks, St. Mark's, Lawrence Academy, St. George's, Kent etc. If you're into the all guys thing you can check out Salisbury, Avon, South Kent etc. And if you want to go south there's episcopal, woodberry forest (all guys), garrison forest (all girls) chatham hall, and on and on and on. the key is doing research.</p>