Please Read, I need to clear up a bunch of things going around this forum

<p>The SAT score average is an average, meaning about half the people who get in (or matriculate) have below that average. There seems to be some sort perception that you need the average SAT Score to get in, it helps but if you don't have you don't have to flip out, and you don't have to post an "amazing" story about a friend with "only" a 1300 SAT score who got in. I'm not sure what the Average SAT score is in other schools, but at Stern is is currently 1443, but plenty of people below that get in. CAS is generally 50 points below Stern, but I'm not sure this years exact figure. On a side note, Tisch people generally have higher SAT scores than people in this forum seem to think, and its also important to realize that different Tisch departments have vastly different scores.</p>

<p>You can't directly compare two SAT scores. While the score itself is somewhat important, the level of the school and the race of applicant also matter. A poor minority student from the city with a 1200 SAT score, is generally thought of as smarter than a 1350 SAT score from a private school that has months of SAT prep. GPA also doesn't matter, what does matter is your class rank in conjunction with the difficulty of your schedule. SAT II's, work experience, essay and clubs also matter, but it seems to a smaller extent.</p>

<p>this seems obvious, but not everyone in NYU is gay. There is definitely higher than the population average, but at most 10% of guys are openly gay. It also depends on the major, at Stern there are very few gay people, whereas you move into musical theatre in Tisch, the number increase considerably</p>

<p>The school isn't as liberal people make it out to be. Out of school of 20,000 undergrads, and 50,000 total students, only about 200-300 showed up to protest the "find the illegal alien" march. Most people here consider themselves liberals, but no one really hits the streets about it. Alot of people are however into vegetarianism, organic food, sushi, indie music etc...but I think that's everywhere. Also Stern is a little over half conservatives (but actually not as conservative as people think!) </p>

<p>GSP isn't overally looked down upon. People make jokes, but its not like "the are the idiots, don't talk to them." The caliber of GSP students also has increased as the university has increased. However, GSP student do have lower stats than CAS students, I sometimes here in this forum that GSP is for a "different kind of student"...its for people NYU isn't sure about getting in, and is often thought of existing to make NYU money (NYU can offer horrible financial aid and still have people accept since its probably the best university they can get into). Also GSP's minimum GPA to guarentee transfer into the school you originally applied has been raise to 3.0. GSP classes generally will give you atleast a B though if you do the work, so don't be overly scared.</p>

<p>Financial need plays NO ROLE in your admission, I don't care if you have " a friend who had a higher SAT score" story...don't try to extrapolate personal experience into a university policy!</p>

<p>There's a few more completely off the mark things I've read in the forum the last couple of months, I'll post if I can remember them.</p>

<p>I'm currently a Stern Sophomore, feel free to ask any questions.</p>

<p>My daughter is considering the music business major at Steinhardt. ( She is currently a junior.) Any imput on the program and who is in it? I know that they take at least 30 credits in Stern...Thanks!</p>

<p>I don't know too much information on it. Generally they take Stern classes with non-stern people, so the competition isn't that bad (although there is overflow sometimes) in those classes.</p>

<p>There's something called a Stern Curve (30% A/A-'s in most classes, 20% in finance classes..it depends on the departments, IT classes might give out a few more A's) but if she can get the non-stern student stern classes she doesn't really have to worry about it.</p>

<p>I have a few friends in it..they all really enjoy it, and have some nice internships. However, getting a job/internship seems very dependant on network skills--they have resources to help you get a job, and a 4.0 will obviously help--but from what I've heard you have to really get yourself out there in order to get good employment. It's also one of the industries that you have to really prove yourself before you get a good job (NYU helps you get your foot in the door of course!)</p>

<p>Who's in it? Alot of guitar players haha. Just about all the people there are musicians (who I've met atleast)</p>

<p>Also theres a similar program in Tisch, I'm not sure the difference between the two, but DEFINATELY make sure you research the difference and such asap.</p>

<p>I totally agree with mattistotle's post. </p>

<p>I'd just like to add that I would say a majority of the people at NYU just don't care about politics. If pressed to categorize themselves, I suppose most of them would say they're liberal, but it's a far cry from this extremist bleeding heart stereotype most people expect. If you don't talk about politics all that much, you probably won't ever find it a big deal. Hey, my roommate wants to be the next Ann Coulter; I don't approve, but we haven't killed each other yet (in fact, we're rooming together next year)</p>

<p>Also, for music business, I know they have to take classes where non-major classes are NOT offered. The question is kind of vague - do you want to know how the major is structured? Who it's geared towards? Your daughter should probably read this site first: <a href="http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/music/page.php?page_id=6%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/music/page.php?page_id=6&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>How do you like Stern so far? I'l be a freshman at Stern next year, so I'd like to hear what you have to say about the school.</p>

<p>Stern is ok for me, though I now wish I'd done an econ theory major :(</p>

<p>how I like Stern is a hard question to answer, so try to ask more specific questions haha. I have found all my teachers in Stern classes to be very intelligent. I haven't found the workload to overwhelming at all (alot of classes have no work but 2 mid terms and final...at most you'll have a few group projects, almost no essays, almost no collected homework). Most of the classes are actually relevant towards your career (except the MAP classes, but they are CAS classes anyways). WTE 2 is completely pointless though. The competition is tough, there are MANY people that waste whole weekends studying, but its not everyone. There really is no backstabbing at all despite the competition, and everyone is willing to help one another (which goes against the stereotype). Stern doesn't help me find internships as much as I'd like, but there are business societys (Beta Alpha Psi for example) that do help you though. Most of my friends aren't in Stern, but that doesnt mean I have anything against Stern people. Stern peopel are definately more studious than most of the school, although there are plenty of cokeheads and alcoholics.I do find the people a little boring and blan compared to my friends in other schools, but thats pretty subjective, and Stern people definately are nice. The deans are very nice and will listen to any concern you have, and will actually make changes accordingly. The clubs get ALOT of money, and are very fun and benefecial. Entrepreuneral Exchange Group is one of the clubs I'm E-board on, and its one the greatest experiences in Stern ( which is funny because I'm not even planning to be an entrpreuner any time soon!)We run the LC cafe and are opening up another eatery some time soon, definately stop by next year (mention you heard about it from Matt haha). Also, the different ethnic groups tend to associate together alot (indianits, asians, Russian Jews),not saying different groups wont associate with you, but definately is very cliquey in that regard which I found depressing (since all the internations claim they came here to be multicultural)...I mean everyone has plenty of friends from different ethnic groups, but groups of best friends tend to be uniracial. I guess it has something to do with having things in common, but I still find it a drawback.</p>

<p>Sorry for the rambling, but as I said try to ask more specific :)</p>

<p>haha Sorry, but i did find your "rambling" to be very helpful. Thanks.</p>

<p>crossposted from another thread but this is important</p>

<p>IT IS EXPLICITLY AGAINST UNIVERSITY POLICY TO DISCRIMINATE BASED ON NEED,AND AGAINST THE LAW.</p>

<p>They have a certain amount of predetermined aid packages, and they will give them out. They give them out to people depending on merit and need. You just won't get good aid if you are accepted but have below average stats, but you will still get in. jesus christ people need to stop talking out of their @$$es on this forum and polluting the minds applicants. If you need aid CHECK THE BOX, don't lose out on 1000's of dollars because someone a board tells you it will help you get in, when they have no idea what they are talking about.</p>

<p>I see a lot of people confused about Sunday at the Square things. If you get this it means you are in, and you are viewed by NYU has top acceptees. However, not getting this does not mean you did not get in. Eventually people will get invitations to university day, if you get this you are in; however if you don't get that it also doesn't mean you didn't get in. However if you don't get either invitations your chances of getting in are decreased, and if you do get in expect a lesser financial aid package.</p>

<p>Hey uskoolfish,</p>

<p>I'm a sophomore in the Steinhardt Music Business program. I like it a lot.
There are a bunch of Stern classes, a bunch of classes in Steinhardt that are just music (your Music Theory and Aural Comp), and then there are classes that are devoted to the music industry.</p>

<p>I agree with Mattistotle, WTE definitely is a terrible waste of time.</p>

<p>I also attended Sunday at the Square, and it's basically a "Come to our school where we can serve you a fancy meal and see just how classy we are." Keep in mind, an invitation to Sunday at the Square does not guarentee huge financial scholarships. It does a lot of the time, because that means you're in the top whatever % of applicants, but I noticed a bunch of my fellow attendees received substantially less.</p>

<p>Feel free to ask any questions.</p>

<p>What the difference between the sunday and the square and the cas reception invitations? Is one considered more prestigious than the other?</p>

<p>Stern is the harder school to be admitted into. It'd naturally follow then that the "top" students of those admitted to Stern are better, and thus it should be reasoned that Stern's early notice is more "prestigious".</p>

<p>different school have different receptions for the top admitted students, you can't really say one is more "prestigious" than the other. They all suck up really hard trying to get you to attend, although Stern probably spends more (We have a retarded amount of money to just throw around as you'll find out).</p>

<p>i heard ppl who applied to cas got the sunday at the square invite....so wats the difference between sunday at square, the cas reception, and the university day? ( i got cas reception)</p>

<p>Sunday at the square - top 10-15% of applicants, University day for second tier, CAS reception for everybody that gets in...not sure though, its different every school also.</p>

<p>Wouldn't that mean that University Day invites would come out before the CAS reception? I haven't heard about anybody getting the University Day invite yet (I thought I got one but I mixed it up with the CAS reception)</p>

<p>Does anyone kno if the scholarships/financial aids package comes with the decision letter or does that come separately?</p>

<p>it comes with the the package, although I heard they sometimes accidentally leave it out.</p>

<p>i don't even think i could pay so much lol </p>

<p>but i'm going to visit NYC though; never been there</p>