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<p>Someone at my school commited suicide yesterday because she was always pressured by her parents to do better, kind of like in the movie Dead Poet's Society. (She was planning on going to MIT next Fall).
If you guys/girls could have a moment of silence for her, that would be really thoughtful.
Thanks</p>

<p>...and for a bipolar kid I know who hung himself.</p>

<p>:( :( :( :( :(</p>

<p>im so sorry for your, and really the world's, loss
of course ill take a moment</p>

<p>I'll keep her in my thoughts, as well as the bipolar person who hung himself.</p>

<p>So... the daughter was pressured by her parents... how are those very same parents doing now? The girl they pushed so hard killed herself... can't imagine they're very proud of themselves now, are they? </p>

<p>Sorry, but I am feeling very hostile toward her parents right now, even though I should probably respect them as mourning people... but still, you have to admit it seems as if it were THEIR fault. Do they like knowing they basically killed their kid by driving her to suicide?</p>

<p>That's the same attitude behind the Nazis' mass killings.</p>

<p>it makes me sad to know that some people have such little self esteem to feel that death is better than living. ending her life before possibly the greatest 4 years of her life. if you know someone like that, you should definitely get them help. they need as much professional help as possible. the two people will be in my thoughts. i hope the families dont blame themselves/beat themselves too hard. if you know the families i urge u to give them moral support.</p>

<p>That is such a pathetic post by Iamthestarman. If it is someone's attempt to be humorous, I am really saddened. It is pretty creepy.</p>

<p>our school is well noted for its unusual suicides crap. We even have a suicide prevention hotline set up in our school. I mean, literally, I checked up with my teacher about the suicides in our school and said there is couple every year. like, he told me, last year, someone commmited suicide after getting a C in AP Physics because he thought he was ruined for MIT. Yea, I noticed suicides are occuring due to the pressure in school. It's HIGH SCHOOL. MY Goodness, geez, who cares about the undergrad, its all about the grad school. Im not sayign udnergrad is nothing, im saying people are making a riot about getting into undergrad schools.
Anyways, I am sorry to hear that.</p>

<p>Now is the time to hug your friends and children...</p>

<p>I'm so sorry. I'll pray for their families.</p>

<p>I hope that any student reading this thread who is contemplating suicide will talk to their GC or another trusted adult or call a hotline if they can't turn to their parents for help.</p>

<p>Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.</p>

<p>that's so sad!!
I feel bad for the girl and for her parents. How guilty would they be feeling right now..?

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Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

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what a great quote! sooo truee</p>

<p>for more news the girl hung herself. I don't know how her parents/family members are doing. She had gotten accepted to MIT and UC Berkeley. She wanted to go to Berkeley really bad, but because her dad was an MIT alumni, he made her go there. </p>

<p>If there is one lesson to learn from this, it's that the child should be able to choose where he/she goes. If your parents are giving you advice, its okay, but if they are forcing you to do something that you do not want to do, then that is wrong. Students in this type of situation, PLEASE make your own decision and don't have someone else do it for you.</p>

<p>"If there is one lesson to learn from this, it's that the child should be able to choose where he/she goes. "</p>

<p>I agree that unless there are major reasons for parental concern (such as lack of money to pay for a student's choice ), parents should let students make their own decisions.</p>

<p>However, the big lesson in what you described is that the student ended her life when she did not have to. Suicide really is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.</p>

<p>I hope that no one here thinks that what the student did was the way to solve these kind of problems!</p>

<p>There are many other things that she could have done.</p>

<p>These include refusing to go to college at all. Moving out of her parent's house. Taking a year off and doing everything possible to raise the money to go to Berkeley. I am sure that there are many more possibilities. </p>

<p>WHen I taught college, I had a student whose parents had threatened to disown him if he chose to go to the place where I taught. They were convinced that if he went there, he'd never "meet the movers and shakers of the world."</p>

<p>They literally refused to speak to him for most of his senior year. Over his parents' rage, he went to the college of his choice, became a star student, met the U.S. president twice, won some national awards, and had several fine job offers at graduation. </p>

<p>His parents hosted the student's graduation party -- which was attended by profs as well as the student's friends. And the student's father apologized in public for discouraging his son for going to our college.</p>

<p>This is the kind of thing that now will never happen to the student who committed suicide. Life will go on for others. Others will have options. Others' minds will open. Her parents viewpoints on a variety of things will probably change, but the student will still be dead.</p>

<p>That is what is saddest about this.</p>

<p>A friend of mine killed himself freshman year, but for different reasons. That's hard stuff.</p>

<p>Interesting point about all this pressure. Dead Poet's Society was great.</p>

<p>what if you have a friend, who you are reaaally concerned about, and youve tried to help them, talked to them, the school counselor, their parents, but to no avail? the parents thing he/she doesnt have a problem and are refusing her/him medicine for their depression?
any ideas? ive tried everything. i think.</p>

<p>Try getting that friend to talk to a counselor. I don't think his/her parents have to know about it. If you can't find one or can't find one for free, then i suggest going through your church, synagogue, or whatever. Ask your clergyman if he/she can help or knows anyone. another good source of help would be the youth group leader, or something like that. i'm not sure how to help you with the medication aspect of the problem. but just by my own choice, i refuse to take any medication for whatever psychological problems i'm having. I've been through depression, but i always felt that i need to heal myself rather than being chemically altered. so... it's my personal opinion that medicine can help, but isn't always needed, and i prefer not to use it.</p>