Poli-Sci, Math/Econ requirements

<p>Hey, did anyone else notice that the 12 point cognate course requirement for the political science major has been dropped? Now the bulletin reads:</p>

<p>"In addition to courses in political science, students are strongly advised, but not required, to take 12 credits in a related social science field."</p>

<p>On an unrelated note...</p>

<p>if I try to do a double major in Applied Math and Econ (not joint!), do the math requirements for the Econ major count towards the Applied Math major?</p>

<p>Specifically, Applied Math requires 40 points of classes:
12 points in Calc I-IV
3 points in Linear Algebra
3 points in Analysis (2500 or 4061)
4 points in seminars
18 points in electives</p>

<p>The math classes required in the Econ major are Calc I, Calc III and Stat 4107. Would I have to take 2 extra math electives in place of Calc I and III just because a class can't be double counted towards 2 majors? Also, am I allowed to count Stat 4107 as one of my 18 points of math electives?</p>

<p>I'd appreciate any help. I'm a real dummy at credit math.</p>

<p>^i don't think they allow you to double count anything in a double major.</p>

<p>Bleh, having to take two extra math electives just because calc I and III are required by the econ major seems a tad ridiculous.</p>

<p>I could still see it for the stat class since it was going to be an elective anyway, but calc???</p>

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if I try to do a double major in Applied Math and Econ (not joint!), do the math requirements for the Econ major count towards the Applied Math major?

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<p>First of all, you can't major in applied math unless you're in SEAS. If that's the case then you can't major in poli sci. (unless you're doing a combined program)</p>

<p>Second, assuming you're an admitted student, you'll be on campus in a few weeks. Just sit down with your adviser before classes really hit hard. Math, econ, and poli.sci. are probably popular enough that your adviser will know enough to be competent (which is not usually the case if you're in SEAS, they tend to know little to nothing about SEAS majors...)</p>

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This is just wrong. There are 3 majors that span both CC and SEAS, they are Applied Math, Applied Physics, and Computer Science. CC people can also get a Econ-OR major. </p>

<p>I'm pretty sure if you finish your calculus sequence, there isn't much they can say, I believe Calc is treated more as a pre-requisite than a requirement. With that being said, make sure to talk to your academic advisor about this. They are nice people and tend to make things that make logic sense work out, or they will call people above their heads, and you can logically convince them.</p>

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This is just wrong. There are 3 majors that span both CC and SEAS, they are Applied Math, Applied Physics, and Computer Science. CC people can also get a Econ-OR major.

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<p>Source??? If this is true then it's a new development because I'm 99% sure it wasnt like this when I was a freshman. </p>

<p>Columbia</a> College Bulletin
Welcome</a> to the Department of Applied Physics & Applied Mathematics</p>

<p>Neither of those mention anything about APMA being open to CC students. You can take the classes if you're in CC but I still stand by the fact that you cant major in it unless you are SEAS. </p>

<p>Similarly,
<a href="http://www.ieor.columbia.edu/pages/undergraduate/econ_operations_research/http://www.ieor.columbia.edu/pages/undergraduate/econ_operations_research/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ieor.columbia.edu/pages/undergraduate/econ_operations_research/http://www.ieor.columbia.edu/pages/undergraduate/econ_operations_research/&lt;/a>
does not say anything about SEAS kids being able to apply to the program, just CC/GS (tho I will point out that OR, IE, FE majors dont explicitly say they are only open to SEAS)</p>

<p>Doing a search for "applied physics college" with the google search tool on Columbia</a> University in the City of New York does not yield anything but the 3-2 and 4-1 programs.</p>

<p>Lastly, I never mentioned anything about CS. You are correct for that one although comp. eng. is only open to SEAS.</p>

<p>If you're right I will gladly admit it but you will have to find me something that says it because I've never heard of it being that way. (with regards to APMA)</p>

<p>Hmm, I guess I was mistaken. I know I must have gotten that impressing from somewhere. Maybe I'm mixing up schools.</p>

<p>You can be in Columbia College and major in applied math. The info is on the mathematics department website (not Applied Physics and Applied Math, which is in SEAS). Basically, the math department has to approve your curriculum, which presumably could include classes in APMA as well as math, and probably in some other departments as well. As I recall, there is a list of required and suggested courses.</p>

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You can be in Columbia College and major in applied math. The info is on the mathematics department website (not Applied Physics and Applied Math, which is in SEAS). Basically, the math department has to approve your curriculum, which presumably could include classes in APMA as well as math, and probably in some other departments as well. As I recall, there is a list of required and suggested courses.

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<p>Can you find it for me? I still don't see it....The only things a search for "Applied" brings up are course listings for 2 seminars in "problems in applied math/physics"</p>

<p>Visiting</a> the Mathematics Department</p>

<p>Thanks mike. I think it would be logical to allow us to double count the mandatory calc sequence in an app math + econ double major, but not the stat class since that's an elective. I was hoping someone was doing (or knew someone who did) such a major. Do most people just go with the joint math-econ major instead?</p>

<p>Skraylor, you can indeed major in applied math at CC.</p>

<p>Columbia</a> College Bulletin</p>

<p>If you scroll down a little ways you'll see this:</p>

<p>"Courses for a major in applied mathematics:</p>

<p>40 points: 12 points in calculus or Honors mathematics A-B; 3 points in MATH V2010; 3 points in MATH W4061; 4 points in APMA E4901 (junior year), APMA E4903 (senior year); 18 points in electives from the following courses: MATH V2500, MATH V3007, MATH V3027, MATH V3028, MATH W4032, SIEO W3658, APMA E4300, and others (with the approval of the Applied Mathematics Committee). The electives should include MATH V3027, MATH V3028, or SIEO W3658. MATH W4061 can be replaced by MATH V2500 or MATH W4032."</p>

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Do most people just go with the joint math-econ major instead?

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Yes. Or econ-operations research, or econ-stat.</p>

<p>You can always take more math, possibly enough for a concentration. Or do an applied math major, and an econ concentration. Trying to complete two full majors, in addition to the core curriculum, is very difficult. You are likely to find conflicting course schedules when trying to fit in all those requirements.</p>

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Skraylor, you can indeed major in applied math at CC.

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<p>Hmmmm...I find it interesting that to be considered an applied math major in the college all you need to do is take 2 seminars in "problems in applied math" plus all the background one would expect a normal mathematician to have (ODE,PDE,numerical analysis, fourier transforms, etc)</p>

<p>In any event, I suppose I stand corrected. I guess you can technically get an applied math degree from the college.</p>