<p>I just finished my application to Penn. I truly do like the school even though its probably not my first choice. What I was wandering is how difficult is it for a very socially conservative catholic student to fit in on campus? After I read Michael Savages book, The Enemy Within, the Ivy League schools have lost some appeal especially for me who wants to major in political science. Will professor impose their views on me or is the University open to difference of opinions. Any input from current students or the impressions a prospective student has are welcomed. Thanks.</p>
<p>michael savage is perhaps the biggest a$$hole "in politics" today. if you really listen to that s.o.b, you shouldnt be going to an ivy anyway...</p>
<p>That's a pretty intolerant view on your part, but I guess in a way you answered my question. If most the students at Ivy League schools would respond like you then its a good thing I applied to seven catholic colleges. I like to read everything even material that is in opposition to my political mind set. That's how I gain true enlightenment, I hear both arguments and then decide on my own where I stand. Hey I have even read Al Franken and believe me no one is more full of it then him. Any other polite responses would be wonderful.</p>
<p>If you're open to hearing "both arguments and then deciding on where I stand" then you shouldnt have a problem with professors trying to "impose" their opinions on your. No one can impose opinions onto you.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I think you really need to evaluate yourself because you dont sound like the person who listens to arguments. You sound like an imposer; thats just me.</p>
<p>Regardless, youre going to find obstinate professors at any college you go to... it would be foolish of someone to say that there are more or less of them at Penn.</p>
<p>You sound afraid of other opinions.</p>
<p>-AJ</p>
<p>I believe around 85% of the Penn student population voted for Kerry in the last election (and around equal percentage among the professors as well). There is definitely a strong liberal skew in terms of attitudes and behavior at Penn, and you will face that as a student either in personal life outside of classes (conversations, sex/drugs/alcohol etc). </p>
<p>In political science classes, most of the professors are on the left, but I feel that most have presented fairly balanced views on topics presented in class. Intelligent discussions are encouraged and do take place, although if you are a social conservative, you will be arguing from the minority at all times. Some profs actually appreciate if students can argue from this perspective and present good points, but at times you will have to turn on your liberal-filter or deal with the nonstop Bush-bashing. </p>
<p>Within Penn, there is a good network of social conservatives, organized in College Republicans and another conservative student org (forgot the name) that have debates with the College Dems and do all of the campaigning/elections stuff, so there are obviously other students that share your political views.</p>
<p>satchelpaige20: you shouldn't be going to any top notch university with that attitude. Let people read what they want, and listen to their viewpoint and if they can support it, respect them. If not, please clear off.</p>
<p>NDHopefull6 you've got the right idea reading material even in opposition to you</p>
<p>I find it funny how the LEFT claims to be so "tolerant" and is all about diversity but is not when it really boils down to it. satchelpaige20 is a prime example of this</p>
<p>Thanks alot myopia and duffenough, I appreciate your responses.</p>
<p>As far as Bush-bashing goes</p>
<p>Bush is not a conservative but a neocon ... a big government conservative...</p>