<p>What are the politics like at dartmouth?</p>
<p>70-75% Bill Clinton Democrat, 20% republican/ libertarian, 5-10% other/ nader liberal.</p>
<p>Politics at Dartmouth: OPEN [unlike many places]</p>
<p>It has a reputation for conservatism, but as any contributor to the Dartmouth Review will tell you, this is not true.</p>
<p>I got the feeling that tons are "liberal" because thats the good thing to be when your young and idealistic but that in 20 years, they'll be writing checks to the RNC.</p>
<p>check out dartmouthreview.com . It is the conservative student newspaper and I really get a kick out of it.</p>
<p>I don't think that is true anymore hands... I think Bush has polarized people much more so than previous republicans...</p>
<p>I gotta agree with Hands. There are people here who are young and liberal and "screw the system", but when they become the CEO of a major corporation and its tax time, they're voting Republican.
HOWEVER, keep in mind that they'll be fiscially conservative but most likely stay socially liberal. People are too open-minded and educated here to encourage prejudice and discrimination and all that other stuff some people hate about Republicans.
Economics affect very few college students' lives though, so it's not a big debate around here. All you'll hear is the socially liberal ideas.</p>
<p>is it really prejudice and hate? the media and education systems push that "republican = hate".</p>
<p>republican ideology says that people should do it themselves. its not that they say "oooo we hate black peple or whatever". Republicans believe government should protect liberties, whereas Democrats believe government should equalize people.</p>
<p>remember the Republican party was the party that freed slaves.</p>
<p>Hands- I think that's horrible logic. I think it's fairly easy to tell that it is often the republians who try to maintain social stratification and oppression of those who are oppressed. The "remember, the republicans are the ones that freed the slaves." Is a horrible argument. So about 150 years ago, the republicans did something (socially) that is good. So then what'd they do during the 50's and 60's to help the black rights movement? And now who are generally the "crazy" religious right? And yah, I'll say "crazy" because you can't follow Fred Phelps or Jerry Falwell and not be considered crazy. I would much rather follow a president who gets some in the oval office than one who wants to maintain rights only for those similar to him. </p>
<p>Now with that, I'm actually kind of a fiscal conservative, though pretty socially liberal. But- I'm just trying to point out that the republicans are now defintely the ones who can be associated with "hate" as you say- and I don't think that's something that you're going to be able to deny.</p>
<p>Ditch both major parties! The GOP is now run by fanatical neoconservative rule-the-world nut jobs, and the Democrats are still a bunch of socialists pandering to every union and illegal immigrant advocacy group. (IMHO)</p>
<p>d-dad, you're right. The Republicans are crazy- I mean, we can't deny that the republicans want to push every non-white, wealthy person out of the way so they can control the world.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I get really annoyed with idealistic democrats who want everyone to be the same and who want our country to turn into something we tried to erradicate from eastern europe in the 1980s. At this point it's just- who is worse than the other and how can we stop the "worst?" Which, I agree- is really really sad.</p>
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remember the Republican party was the party that freed slaves.
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Also remember that up until the early 1900s, the Democrats were the conservative party.</p>
<p>Don't forget the DDR (German Democratic Republic), or the Republican Guard. :-)</p>
<p>I can't leave Hands hanging as the only conservative on this thread...you guys really shouldn't make generalizations. Not all Republicans are in the 'religious right' and "follow Fred Phelps or Jerry Falwell." I am conservative yet am not religious at all. Nor do I agree with everything the Republican Party does. But, as apppro said, it comes down to which one is worse, and for some people the answer is Republicans, for others it is Democrats Let's keep that famous 'politically open' Dartmouth spirit alive!</p>
<p>I am going to agree with my dad on this one and say that both parties are corrupt. </p>
<p>"republican ideology says that people should do it themselves...Republicans believe government should protect liberties, whereas Democrats believe government should equalize people."</p>
<p>Thank you so much for making the distinction between encouraging work ethic and racism. It is a distinction that too many people fail to understand. And do we remember Harrison Bergeron? That's what happens when you don't protect liberties.</p>
<p>Still...careful what you call "Republican ideology." Bush's idea to turn Social Security into socialist welfare kind of makes you wonder.</p>
<p>true, i love the Libertarian party. i really do. and i really think we should move towards a system that allows more third parties, especially through reforms of the electoral college, ballots, campaign finance reform, etc.</p>
<p>and appro - are there people on both sides of the issue that are "crazy".</p>
<p>i'm sorry about the slaves comment, it was a joke cause our history book last year used that a reason why some African-Americans still are loyal to the Republican party. i'm sorry, it was a bit out of line and somewhat crude.</p>
<p>i just don't believe the government should force equality onto a people. how is a progressive tax very equal? how is cutting male sports programs because not enough women are interested in playing sports equal? how is giving URMs a handicap equal, or even how do URMs accept this? i think its a shame that people should be helping me cause i "can't do it on my own" based on my family's heritage. come on, i know of white folk that are in worse situations than URMs, but they often get viewed as lazy, good-for-nothings.</p>
<p>i'd be more ok with the Democratic platform if they actually preached "true equality" of the people, not "we'll make you equal cause you can't succeed on your own".</p>
<p>LOL well as a true moderate i was neutral enough to laugh at the joke, Taylor...i knew you couldn't be serious lol.</p>
<p>let's hear it for CENTERVILLE, woo-HOO! Although I must say, I definitely do watch Bill Maher all the time and laugh my ass off. wait, do they block out "ass"? If so, I laugh my @$$ off. I'm also addicted to Ayn Rand, though, so it balances out haha</p>
<p>"People are too open-minded and educated here to encourage prejudice and discrimination and all that other stuff some people hate about Republicans."</p>
<p>"I mean, we can't deny that the republicans want to push every non-white, wealthy person out of the way so they can control the world."</p>
<p>Errr...are you guys serious? </p>
<p>"So then what'd they do during the 50's and 60's to help the black rights movement?"</p>
<p>True, but they did push the '64 Civil Rights Act.</p>
<p>"And now who are generally the "crazy" religious right? And yah, I'll say "crazy" because you can't follow Fred Phelps or Jerry Falwell and not be considered crazy."</p>
<p>Er, can you differentiate between those members who are religious and right wing, and the crazy supporters of things like superchurches?</p>
<p>And, of course, which side has Kweisi Mfume and Julian Bond?</p>
<p>Alright Taylor, I'm here to defend you...better yet, I'll do a little prosecuting.</p>
<p>Defense:
Hmm. Well, first of all let's all realize that every individual is entitled to his or her own opinion and that politics are divisive by nature. Now, that being said, I get to have fun.</p>
<pre><code> It is wrong to generalize a member of either party. At the same time, however, let us all remember for whom both the electoral college AND the populus of America voted in November: President Bush.
Whether you are willing to admit it or not, Republicans have the edge over Democrats. In the past 25 years, only one Democrat has had rights to the big rolly chair in the oval office.
Furthermore, those of you who are claiming the right to be "crazy" should take some time for a bit of introspection...
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<p>Prosecution
Exhibit A: Edward Kennedy
Good Ole Ted has so many problems it's not even funny. He is to the left of extreme. I'm all for moderation, and moderate he is not. In effect, he hurts his own party with both his behavior as well as his political beliefs.</p>
<pre><code> Exhibit B: John Kerry (and every other beaurocratic Democrat, for that matter)
Senator Kerry has no idea as to what it might be like to be in a financial squeeze, let alone impoverished. Who is he to say he can "empathize" (see debate from WUSTL) with those who need government assistance. The government assistance is there for those who need it, and it SHOULD be there for them.
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<p>Exhibit C: Barbara Boxer (sorry Taylor)
She's so far out in left field, she's outside in the parking lot of the stadium. That's all I have to say about her.</p>
<p>Exhibit D: Robert C. Byrd
I know Strom Thurmond was even older than Senator Byrd, but poor Bob just needs to retire. Senility is setting in: he criticizes the right for threatening to kill the filibuster over a judge nomination. He has done this twice; he first changed the laws to prohibit such action back in the Fifties and then changed them again to permit it as soon as the Democrats became strong enough to vote their own judges onto the bench. Forgetfulness is not a cool thing.</p>
<p>The prosecution rests.</p>
<p>Now, I am quite moderate, myself. Please see this not as a roast of the Democrats, but instead see it as something to be pondered. There are many "Exhibits" for the right, as well, and the only reason I mentioned only Democrats is because it seems that the right is being CRITICIZED for having an opinion. That is intolerance, and I thought we were "far too open-minded and educated" for that.</p>
<p>Now, for more fun, I'm going to look at Ann Coulter's and Al Franken's new articles! (I can do this, I'm moderate, you should try it)</p>
<p>-H2O-</p>